Originally Posted by Infinate812

OK, I read through MOST of the article, and eventually, it was just BLAH BLAH BLAH.

This guy misses the mark, completely. Actions speak louder than words, and you need to look at what Republicans DO, then you can see why they say what they say.

First, I suggest the guy go on his computer and study up on Lee At-water. You know, worked for Reagan, H. Bush, became buddies with W. Bush, chaired the RNC, mentored Rove.

Everybody always fails to mention good ole Lee.

Republicans claim the high road and sew doubt. They spread fear by sewing Doubt. "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet." Outright Republican lie. People know it isn't true, but the Republicans keep repeating it and repeating it and repeating it, and that creates a seed we call doubt...

Lee did it to Dukakis. He did it to Foley. Rove did it to Gore. And Kerry.

This guy can make up all he wants, but people vote their gut. People don't want to bother "studying up" on their candidates, so they listen to what's being said. And the Republicans will hammer a half truth or outright lie until people doubt they should vote for the Democrat.

McCain spat out this year's version. "Obama voted to raise taxes on people making as little as $42,000." It's a lie. He voted to let the Bush tax cuts expire. And he fully intends to be there as President to replace the Bush pro wealth cuts with tax relief for the middle class.

The only difference between this election and those of the past 30 years is that McCain hasn't bought into this method. He hired new people for him this year, but they've been around. They helped get Bush elected, and John isn't used to their tactics.

Explains why he couldn't look Obama in the eye, doesn't it?

Fear, doubt, even ridicule. Those are the Republican tactics. It's what they do to get elected. This guy Haidt must work the the RNC, because he doesn't mention any of that.

But let's look at what he does say: "The book of Leviticus makes a lot more sense when you think of ancient lawgivers first sorting everything into two categories: "disgusts me" (gay male sex, menstruation, pigs, swarming insects) and "disgusts me less" (gay female sex, urination, cows, grasshoppers )."

OK, ancients were less disgusted eating grasshoppers than locusts. That's just stupid. Gay male sex verses gay female sex. He's applying his modern morality on the ancient text.

You want to understand Leviticus? Ask a Jew, it's their book!!!

Haidt said, " I often had to correct people when they said things like." Correcting the subjects of the research. Oh yeah, THAT'S good science...

This crap he said, " Drawing on Shweder's ideas, I would say that the second rule of moral psychology is that morality is not just about how we treat each other (as most liberals think); it is also about binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way." He makes a blatant generalization of how MOST LIBERALS THINK and attributes his high almighty, "sanctified and noble" idea to the one thing Republicans understand that Liberals "just don't get."

OK, I know all you Republicans are eating this (*)(*)(*)(*) up like ice cream with hot fudge, so I just have one request. PROVE IT. PROVE MOST LIBERALS THINK THAT WAY. PROVE ALL REPUBLICANS THINK THE OTHER. JUST PROVE IT TO ME. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE!!!

Half my family is Republican. My father voted the candidate, and of my Republican side of the family, he always said, "don't ever buy a car from ANY of them!" Alcoholism ran pretty heavy on that side of my family. My uncle was married 4 times. Gossips. Snipes. And these are the people who this guy claims are for "binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way."

GIVE ME A BREAK!!! This was my family, and I can attest, it was all about the money!

This Haidt guy votes Republican on a NATIONAL, STATE and LOCAL level.

And apparently, I guess he HAS studied up on Lee At-water...

And at THAT point, I swallowed my dinner back down and closed the window on this guy. Couldn't finish reading that crap... PSY-CHO-BABBLE.

Originally Posted by wopper stopper

speaking of blah,blah blah......

Originally Posted by Infinate812

OK, I read through MOST of the article, and eventually, it was just BLAH BLAH BLAH.

This guy misses the mark, completely. Actions speak louder than words, and you need to look at what Republicans DO, then you can see why they say what they say.

First, I suggest the guy go on his computer and study up on Lee At-water. You know, worked for Reagan, H. Bush, became buddies with W. Bush, chaired the RNC, mentored Rove.

Everybody always fails to mention good ole Lee.

Republicans claim the high road and sew doubt. They spread fear by sewing Doubt. "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet." Outright Republican lie. People know it isn't true, but the Republicans keep repeating it and repeating it and repeating it, and that creates a seed we call doubt...

Lee did it to Dukakis. He did it to Foley. Rove did it to Gore. And Kerry.

This guy can make up all he wants, but people vote their gut. People don't want to bother "studying up" on their candidates, so they listen to what's being said. And the Republicans will hammer a half truth or outright lie until people doubt they should vote for the Democrat.

McCain spat out this year's version. "Obama voted to raise taxes on people making as little as $42,000." It's a lie. He voted to let the Bush tax cuts expire. And he fully intends to be there as President to replace the Bush pro wealth cuts with tax relief for the middle class.

The only difference between this election and those of the past 30 years is that McCain hasn't bought into this method. He hired new people for him this year, but they've been around. They helped get Bush elected, and John isn't used to their tactics.

Explains why he couldn't look Obama in the eye, doesn't it?

Fear, doubt, even ridicule. Those are the Republican tactics. It's what they do to get elected. This guy Haidt must work the the RNC, because he doesn't mention any of that.

But let's look at what he does say: "The book of Leviticus makes a lot more sense when you think of ancient lawgivers first sorting everything into two categories: "disgusts me" (gay male sex, menstruation, pigs, swarming insects) and "disgusts me less" (gay female sex, urination, cows, grasshoppers )."

OK, ancients were less disgusted eating grasshoppers than locusts. That's just stupid. Gay male sex verses gay female sex. He's applying his modern morality on the ancient text.

You want to understand Leviticus? Ask a Jew, it's their book!!!

Haidt said, " I often had to correct people when they said things like." Correcting the subjects of the research. Oh yeah, THAT'S good science...

This crap he said, " Drawing on Shweder's ideas, I would say that the second rule of moral psychology is that morality is not just about how we treat each other (as most liberals think); it is also about binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way." He makes a blatant generalization of how MOST LIBERALS THINK and attributes his high almighty, "sanctified and noble" idea to the one thing Republicans understand that Liberals "just don't get."

OK, I know all you Republicans are eating this (*)(*)(*)(*) up like ice cream with hot fudge, so I just have one request. PROVE IT. PROVE MOST LIBERALS THINK THAT WAY. PROVE ALL REPUBLICANS THINK THE OTHER. JUST PROVE IT TO ME. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE!!!

Half my family is Republican. My father voted the candidate, and of my Republican side of the family, he always said, "don't ever buy a car from ANY of them!" Alcoholism ran pretty heavy on that side of my family. My uncle was married 4 times. Gossips. Snipes. And these are the people who this guy claims are for "binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way."

GIVE ME A BREAK!!! This was my family, and I can attest, it was all about the money!

This Haidt guy votes Republican on a NATIONAL, STATE and LOCAL level.

And apparently, I guess he HAS studied up on Lee At-water...

And at THAT point, I swallowed my dinner back down and closed the window on this guy. Couldn't finish reading that crap... PSY-CHO-BABBLE.

Originally Posted by harry dresden

geezus....and Demacrates are just the most truthful and never slander people never do none of the above?.....wait i have to go and

Originally Posted by Marsupilami

Society will evolve past conservatism. It's the oldest political structure there is, it's entirely founded on irrational instincts.

Originally Posted by harry dresden

geezus....and Demacrates are just the most truthful and never slander people never do none of the above?.....wait i have to go and

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

Society will quickly learn that the leftists know nothing of economics. There is a reason that our economy has, for a long time, been better than those of European nations. Yet, despite the fact that we have had a stronger economy under more conservative economics, liberals want to adopt the less successfull economic policies of other leftist nations?

That's illogical, captain.

The LIBERALS found their policies on irrational instincts. Like this healthcare issue. They are looking at instituting the obvious fix rather than the more rational and less expensive one. With economics, they continually show a lack of knowledge of how the economy works. Yeah, lets punish gas companies with tax increases. That will drive down the cost of gas. Then we can increase taxes on companies that are shipping jobs overseas. That will give them real incentive to stay here, won't it? GIVE ME A BREAK.

I totally support lefties in civil rights. I agree that people should be allowed to get marreid even if they are gay, and people of all races, genders, ethnicities should be given equal opportunity to get jobs, loans, etc.

Where I disagree is your economic and fiscal policies. Your idea that taxing the rich to benefit the poor is good is not a good idea. It is, indeed, a noble cause. Nobody will argue that. We all want to help the less fortunate. However, forcing people to help by taxing them is not the way to do it. This is especially true when we are not monitoring where the benefits are going. We have people who are intentionally not working because they know they can live off welfare. We have people with million dollar IRAs that are still getting social security. We have people that are choosing not to get health insurance because the saved money can be spent on luxuries.

The liberals make promises that make people say "oh, that's a noble cause" and the American people do not think of what is actually going on. Everything liberals think up gets abused either by the government or by citizens. Our government needs to start thinking before they approve needless spending for programs that will get abused, and liberals cannot be trusted to think before making decisions. They are impulsive people. They do whatever first comes to mind and seems like the easiest fix without thinking about other options.

Originally Posted by Joe1991

Repubs are about "me, mine, and my money"
Dems are about "me, you, and us"