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Old 09-29-2008, 06:45 PM
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So all this time Fox News goofballs have been lying us about the crap that Koran encourages men to kill themselves because it claims they will be rewarded with 72 virgins if they die killing infidels. is
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:55 PM
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I hope you're young terrorist. You believe what you wish or whatever people tell you when it agrees with what you've already decided and never do any research on your own.

Well, actually that might have been some work putting together all the fox articles. But you could have spent some time following up on the claim. Google would have made it pretty easy for you.

Now I believe this comes from Perham telling you that the whole 72 virgins thing isn't in the Qur'an.

This is true.

But the Qur'an itself is not the only important text to Muslims. There are also the Hadith, which are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith

However Islam is not a unified faith. And different groups believe in different Hadiths.

The 72 virgins thing comes from a specific Hadith. It is possible that Perham doesn't follow that, however it is rather popular with terrorists for obvious reasons.

From a western perspective maybe think about it like the stuff the pope says. To Catholics it's faith. Gotta do confession and all that. Other groups don't buy it. However if you're a pro lifer you'd be inclined to bring the popes stuff up. Not a perfect analogy, but I think it gets the idea across.
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First, before I even read your post I want to say that I'm surprised you even dared to show up here, so thank you.
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Well, actually that might have been some work putting together all the fox articles. But you could have spent some time following up on the claim. Google would have made it pretty easy for you.
it was done in 3 clicks: went to foxnews.com. in search typed in 72 virgins, and copied all in one what you have above in OP, i;m too busy to horse around, I got 4 businesses to run, 2 puppies to train, and a wife who needs constant affection


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Now I believe this comes from Perham telling you that the whole 72 virgins thing isn't in the Qur'an.

This is true.
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But the Qur'an itself is not the only important text to Muslims. There are also the Hadith, which are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith
You mean like Talmud to Jews?

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However Islam is not a unified faith. And different groups believe in different Hadiths.

The 72 virgins thing comes from a specific Hadith. It is possible that Perham doesn't follow that, however it is rather popular with terrorists for obvious reasons.

From a western perspective maybe think about it like the stuff the pope says. To Catholics it's faith. Gotta do confession and all that. Other groups don't buy it. However if you're a pro lifer you'd be inclined to bring the popes stuff up. Not a perfect analogy, but I think it gets the idea across.
ep, you HAVE to read Jewish Talmud, it will wake you up and I am not joking here: people who were telling me this a couple of years ago, I considered them nuts, but they predicted the downfall of US economy to the dot. read talmud.
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ep, you HAVE to read Jewish Talmud, it will wake you up and I am not joking here: people who were telling me this a couple of years ago, I considered them nuts, but they predicted the downfall of US economy to the dot. read talmud.
Ooohkay. Maybe I will at some point. At any rate the Talmud isn't a bad comparison. Though I believe Hadith carry more weight because they are about the Prophet directly. They're a lot more like the Gospels that way. But at any rate I think you get it.

Otherwise, darn, either you're lying or you're older. Well are you mature enough to admit you're falsely accusing Fox news on this particular thing?

The virgins (well technically Houri but that's another discussion) are a part of (some) Muslims faith.

Many many potential "martyrs" are certainly fed the 72 virgins thing. Presumably a bunch of them believe it.
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Ooohkay. Maybe I will at some point. At any rate the Talmud isn't a bad comparison. Though I believe Hadith carry more weight because they are about the Prophet directly. They're a lot more like the Gospels that way. But at any rate I think you get it.

Otherwise, darn, either you're lying or you're older. Well are you mature enough to admit you're falsely accusing Fox news on this particular thing?

The virgins (well technically Houri but that's another discussion) are a part of (some) Muslims faith.

Many many potential "martyrs" are certainly fed the 72 virgins thing. Presumably a bunch of them believe it.
After all the BS on FoxNews and CNN, I'm not even sure I believe suicide bombers even exist - maybe it's those guys who follow talmud doing the ritual killings and blaming it on others, look once it was england, then france, then lithuania, then france again, england, then nazi germany, then Iraq, Iran, we're all seem to be going in circles being 'monsters' abusing the Jews, who knows. do you know what I'm talking about? yea, the expulsion of Jews thru out history, it's surprising but very true, seems like we're all evil at some point, it's just the middle easts turn at the moment, well looking at wall street looks like we may be next, but who knows...
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I'm not even sure I believe suicide bombers even exist - maybe it's those guys who follow talmud doing the ritual killings and blaming it on others



Seriously man. Even the holocaust deniers would think you're over the top with that one. What. A massive secret organization of Jewish Arabs bent on self destruction?
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Obviously you have NOT read the Talmud.
Since we already established that 72 virgin thing to Islam is the same as ritual killings to Judaism, let's continnue there:

= Fox News is a anti Islam propaganda channel.
= Bush is a racist, because he said 'we're at war with Islamo facism'
= Either Germany, Britain, France, Lithuania, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Russia OR THE JEWS are racists. take your pic.

That is unless you denounce everything you 'learned' from free western media and stop playing a political expert....of course you can continnue just for the sake of argument and being a wise arse, but think it over for your own sake...
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*flails around trying to change the subject.
It's really very simple for this thread.

You said: "So FoxNews LIES about Qurans' 72 virgins?"
(and than posted a bunch of bad links)

The fact is that FoxNews was accurate in this regard as it is part of many terrorists Islamic beliefs.

And that should be it for this thread really. You seem to be the sort of person who wouldn't admit they were wrong if they'd said 1+1=5 so I'm just going to let this thread die. If you want to start a discussion on some Jew related topic start a new thread, maybe I'll come by.
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Fox isn't lying about 72 virgins.

Islam is, to desperate people.
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You seem to be the sort of person who wouldn't admit they were wrong if they'd said 1+1+3=5
It is 5, but if the media overshadows the 3 part, illusion is created that it is not. that is precisely the point of this thread, especially in connection with Russias 'brutal unprovoked' attack on Georgia
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