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Old 10-10-2008, 07:44 AM
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Lol im not serious. But there is a place near me which offers $400 for 5 'samples'.
That's so awesome, I'm going to look into this.
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First, homosexuality is not genetic. For one, the homosexual was created by heterosexuals, so where did these genes come from? Uncle Joe? Well, what if Uncle Joe ain't gay either?
Proponents of the "genetic theory" like to state that other animals have same-sex sex. While they are correct, they fail to point out that these animals also have heterosexual sex. They aren't completely gay, having ONLY same-sex sex. So actually, there aren't any gay animals-except for us. At most, you can only say they may be Bi-sexual. Also, these animals don't have same-sex sex because of an attraction, but because they're showing dominance - not the same reasons humans say they are gay.
Is there any evidence of homosexual neanderthals? Again I'm talking straight gay, not bi-sexual. I doubt it. Homosexuals started to crop up after the Agricultural Revolution. It seems that as our population grew, it was okay for some of our population to be gay and not procreate. I'd be willing to bet that with a smaller population struggling to survive, like how humans lived during the Stone Age, there'd be no homosexuals in that population.
But then again, if you think about it, their aren't any gay cockroaches (or any other species that has been able to survive and procreate like we and the cockroaches have).
So I guess, it's not a cause of population, but more from the sociology of the animal - ours being very unique from the rest of the animal world. It would seem to me that the evidence points to the cause of homosexuality is our post-hunter-gatherer society.
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Some argue that being gay is a genetic trait
No, it's not that simple. Since there is no "gay gene" then homosexuality won't be spread around like you insinuate. Most psychologists and scientists would argue that it's either something that just comes from experiences, it's from a mix of genes reacting to each other, or both in combination. Either way, being gay isn't something that would be passed down from father to son.
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Lol im not serious. But there is a place near me which offers $400 for 5 'samples'.
Is this your way of telling us you make $400 a day


before it's even lunch time?!
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8. Therefore gay men should not be allowed to contribute sperm because it probably causes more unhappiness.

Discuss. .


That's odd. I was under the impression most guys of either persuasion are never so happy as when they are contributing sperm to the world.
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1. Due to no fault of their own, gay men are persecuted and oppressed by some people in society because they are different
2. Persecution and oppression causes more unhappiness in society, and leads to more divisiveness
3. Unhappiness is bad for the individual and divisiveness is bad for a culture
4. Therefore the world would be better off without gays

[...] Yes, I am aware that I am promoting eugenics. Note, I am not saying that gay men are unhappy, I am saying that gay men in society cause less net happiness overall to be present in a society.
Are you making the same argument for Blacks and other racial minorities? This logic appears to apply to them as well.
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No, it's not that simple. Since there is no "gay gene" then homosexuality won't be spread around like you insinuate. Most psychologists and scientists would argue that it's either something that just comes from experiences, it's from a mix of genes reacting to each other, or both in combination. Either way, being gay isn't something that would be passed down from father to son.
I'm pretty sure their is some kind of gay gene. Or at least a genetic connection between being gay and genetic code. Every time I ever ask someone who is guy they say it was because they where born that way and have no choice. They are attracted to who they are attracted to its not a choice its a part of the genetic make up. Have I been lied to this whole time? Is that what your saying?
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Seems that anatomy has already found a way to prevent homosexual from reproducing, they simply lack the necessary equipment.
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Then why do homosexuals still exist?
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I'm pretty sure their is some kind of gay gene. Or at least a genetic connection between being gay and genetic code. Every time I ever ask someone who is guy they say it was because they where born that way and have no choice. They are attracted to who they are attracted to its not a choice its a part of the genetic make up. Have I been lied to this whole time? Is that what your saying?
It wouldn't make much sense if it was hereditary. Since gay people wouldn't have kids there would be no way to pass on the gene. Genetically gay people would be doomed from the start...

Of coarse where just entering the age where its ok to be gay. Its possible that gay men who remained 'in the closet' could have had kids and families for thousands of years passing on the gene and still marrying hetero...

Science is a mystery. We need MOAR research!
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