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Old 11-03-2004, 04:31 PM
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I suppose it's too much to ask that you re-read your posting from someone else's perspective and see that you were the one who was insulting from the get-go.

I've insulted no one today. NO ONE. I've gloated, for ONE MINUTE, about the comeuppance dished to Michael MOore IN MY COMMUNITY.

But, to those who voted for Kerry, I say, "We are your fellow Americans. Our perspectives are just as important as your own."

Fail to recognize that, and continue to lose elections.

But, for me, I continue to extend the hand of friendship. I have no hard feelings about anything said in the heat of battle during the campaign. We are a stronger country when we approach the future hand in hand than we are when we approach it as adversaries and rivals.

Remember, together we stand. Divided, we fall.

Don't villify those who simply see things differently than you do. That simply widens the divide.

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I appreciate those who have already posted responses to my comment and didn't make fun of my reaction and took it for what it is. I am sincerely frightened, and I know I am not alone in this sentiment.
This was actually directed at you and Munko in mind, in hopes of encouraging others to post as you two did. If you also look at my second post, I retracted my 'All Republicans' statement and clarified my position. I also emphasized that my post was not intended as a partisan attack, but me simply voicing my honest opinion, while conveying my sincerest sentiments of fear that I feel today. My 'attack' comments werec directed at EUP, and EUP only (which I believe I stated) as this hate he has for my opinions I know is as a result of personal sentiments towards me, not of the thoughts I posted in this thread.

But I am glad you posted your response. So I can say this in a public forum. In fact, I was going to send you, Catz a PM - telling you how I respect a great deal how you have handled today, knowing how this victory is for many of us. The fight is over, the battle has been won - I know that. And I do hope that, in time, these deep wounds will heal. But for me, as selfish as you may think it is, I had to get these thoughts off of my chest in order for me to move on, or at least handle how I am feeling. I do wish I could handle today as you did, Catz, but the fear is too deep for me to do that - at least today.

Thank you again for your understanding, Catz - and for your kind words PJ034 and Munko. It is greatly appreciated
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:11 AM
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You may not believe this, but the reason I believe in fighting hard during campaigns and reconciling graciously afterwards is because I've been on the losing side far more often than I've worked on the winning side (almost never).

I remember when Dukakis and Mondale lost, I literally felt like my spirit had been crushed. It hurts to care so much about something and then realize that others don't share your vision.

I want our country to have a strong liberal/progressive movement AND a strong conservative movement because they balance out each other's best and worst tendencies. I'd hate to see this country give over totally to conservativism.

We need the Democratic party to collect itself, to pick itself up, to dust itself off, to analyze what went wrong, and to get it together. If the Democratic party collapses into attacks and defeatism, our country will experience great political turmoil, upheaval, and instability. Look at any country with more than 2 or 3 at the most political parties. They can't get anything done. As a result, the people suffer because their government is literally paralyzed by conflict and enmity.

I know this defeat hurt. I KNOW IT. I've walked many miles in those particular moccasins.

But what we need most from the Democratic party right now, as a country, is for them to let go of hate. hate is the void. Ya'll need to fill that void with something else...something good. It doesn't really work to be united only in hatred, such unity collapses into disarray and conflict in the long run.

The Democratic party needs to find it's soul again. And it won't be found in the likes of Michael Moore. It will be found in and by people like you.

You will remain in my thoughts.

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Old 11-04-2004, 07:58 AM
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I'm not interested in attacking you, PI. As others have noted, I just explained things. Believe it or not, as you will.
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Because the Masses, who do not care for Bush and his regime, simply didn't show up.
That's actually exactly how I feel - Don't need to ask Rebellion, I think I was pretty clear in stating this.
My point is that you are wrong. It's not that majority agree with you, but just didn't show up. In fact the majority supports all of those issues that I listed, not just those who vote. We can list poll after poll about the general public's feeling on gay marriage, partial birth abortion, parental notification, etc. and the public falls strongly on the side of Republicans on these issues. It has nothing to do with who did and didn't vote.
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Here is to four more years of safety and morality and sanity.
You might be able to argue for morality, but you can't use the word "sanity" to describe Bush.
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Leaving our defense up to the UN is hardly the definition of sanity either...
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