So now the election is over....

And I'm sure you are all happy with the result.

But the Truth is, You really have no idea how badly you've screwed yourselves... and America...and the World....

So throw 3 cheers for your victory. For the Gays and Lesbians down the street who will never marry. Yeah that was as much of a threat to America as Osama (who? I hear you ask?)

For the Fortune 500 pharmaceutical company who's stock you've just increased. Now they don't have to go through all that tedious QC testing and price control like they do in Canada.

For the 50 year old woman across town who was just diagnosed with cancer.....pat yourself on the back, you saved America the cost of her social security since she'll die before she ever reaches 62.

For your grandson who just lost his special ed. funding thanks to an underfunded program.
Now he can look forward to being drafted at age eighteen..... You must be so proud.

Maybe it's true that ignorance is bliss. That it's easier to just go with the flow...not make waves and to try and take America and the world back to the 40s - actually, the 1840's it would seem.
But civilization has never advanced by standing still or moving backwards. I don't see many of you riding horse and buggies. And this country DESPITE what you may believe, was not founded on that. And just like the Roman empire fell. So to, someday shall we.

You just hastened that day by decades. If not centuries.

If you were too blind to see it in the last four years of the hell that you created. Get ready, 'cause it's gonna get worse.

I know you don't believe me. You think I'm Drinking sour grapes, But that's often what the best wine is made from.
And as the saying goes....

You can live in staunch denial and mark me as your enemy, but I'm just a voice among the throng who wants a brighter destiny.

If there is a god, He's not blessing you today.
He's weeping at what you've let his world become.

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Truth is by nature self-evident, as soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear. Gandhi

But I assure you that Republicans were every bit as concerned about the potential harm that might be done by a Kerry presidency as you are about a Bush presidency.

I know that those on the left like to think that they are morally and intellectually superior to Republicans. However, I tend to think that anyone who posts here does so out of a sincere desire to improve this country, not only for themselves, but for all of us. We may differ in how that should be done, but I think it's foolish to doubt the intentions.

I think it's tremendously foolish, further, for Democrats to approach this loss in this particular way. It certainly does not lend credibility to your claims of moral superiority, and it does nothing to bridge the deep divide between us.

You would be better advised to take a page from the ill-fated Goldwater campaign. After they lost, rather than blaming for those who voted for the other candidate as being immoral or stupid, the Republicans licked their wounds in privacy, and sat down to figure out why they lost the election. They emerged as a stronger, more cohesive party. The Democrats, if they are to survive, must do the same.

The election truly was Kerry's to lose. MY VOTE was Kerry's to lose. Kerry didn't lose this election because those who voted for Bush are in some way inferior to Kerry voters (and clinging to that veil of fragile tissue isn't going to help you in future elections). Your candidate lost because he didn't run a good campaign, didn't connect with voters, didn't deliver a coherent message. Other than being united in hatred of Bush, the Democratic party isn't united. The Democratic party has serious problems at this point, and blaming those who didn't vote for Kerry isn't going to win future elections, though it might make you feel better at this short moment in time.

If you wish to blame ANYONE for the future you envision, blame your party. But, I think you're mistaken about where we're headed. And, if your candidate saw this vision so clearly, it's a darn shame he was never able to clearly articulate what he'd do to prevent it.

Catz

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I'll get nicer when you get smarter.

....All is not lost and Catz does make some very good points. Remember, we the people still have the power and it took a very small minority to tip the scales Jr's way. In effect, GAY RIGHT and ABORTION won this for Bush. And the Dems have to find a way to reach the Evagenlicals.

Don't forget that most who voted for Bush did so NOT because Kerry is such a bad choice but that they are not comfortable with "changing horses in midstream". I happen to disagree in this instance but it seemed more people are willing to allow Bush to correct the course. Lets us pray he does coz we will all be the better for it.

The Republican party is close to splitting, just like the dems b/w the Moderates and Right wingers. Just look at the stars of the party, RUDY, ARNOLD, MCCAIN...These are pro-choice and gay rights individuals. The Party is still controlled by the Delays, Hasterts, Santoriums, Robertsons, Falwells and co. Do you think they will allow a Pro-choice Republican to represent them? I do not think so...

This will allow both parties to look deep..really deep and figure out what direction they wanna go. For Dems, the time is NOW. For Republicans, the just got a 4-Year extension.

So, do not fret. If you have to worry, worry about our nation, worry about us "common folks" sticking together and holding the people we elect, REP and DEM accountable and keep them on short leashes.

If this election has taught them anything, its that we the MASSES have woken up and we will do everything to keep them honest or else they will suffer the consequences.

as to why Democrats lost this election in so many facets, why they have continued to lose power in every election since 1992, and why they will continue to lose power without real change. They just don't get it. They think socialized medicine and the Canadian system is what most Americans want (they do not). They continue to try and perpetuate the myth about Republicans and corporations instead of addressing issues and their positions on them. They continue to believe that Americans buy into their social agenda. They continue to preach the "hate" aspect of politics and how Republicans will kill the elderly with their policies. And what happens is ordinary Americans see through it and it pushes them even more towards the Republican party.

Based on what I have heard, and the above is an example, this will continue until the Democrat party finally starts to "get it." We are not Europe. We do not want to be. Some day this might just sink in.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

You really have no idea how deluded you are thinking we screwed ourselves and America and the world.

Its the reason you people lost. You are out of touch with the masses.

If by "worse" you mean in a direction opposite liberal ideology, then yeah, I cant wait. I'm ready.

Yeah, thats not melodramatic at all, heh heh.

But see Munko - This is where I disagree, and where I am so disheartened rigt now about the future of the US, that I am seriously contemplating giving up my US citizenship to become a Canadian. Because the Masses, who do not care for Bush and his regime, simply didn't show up.

Not only that, the evangeligal religious zealots determined the future of this country. They ignored the fact that there was no WMD in Iraq. Ignored the fact that there were no ties between Saddam and 9/11. Ignored the healthcare crisis in America. The job losses that have occurred since 2000. Ignored the fact that Osama Bin Laden has not been captured. Ignored the fact that our rights are deteriorating because of the Patriot Act.

Instead, they determined the future of the very Masses that you're referring too while they were taking away the basic civil right of Gays of Lesbians.

How the hell does that happen in a country that professes to be the moral leader of the Free world?

I am more frightenned now - in fact terrified over the future of the US and this planet. This is not a case of partisanship (that's only where the line in the sand happens to be drawn), this is my reaction as a citizen of this planet. To which, I believe, the future looks very grim.

And in all fairness to the republicans, I recant my Topic to this thread, as I should have addressed my original post "To all those who voted for Bush and those who didn't vote period" - because this end result, is not all your fault. It is also the fault of the young voters who didn't bother to show up, and the Registered Dems who couldn't get off their ass to help determine the fate of their country in one of the most important elections in history.

I hope no one takes my reaction as someone upset because my candidate happened to lose the election. I wouldn't even post this reaction had this election occurred under the same atmosphere, of say, 1988. I am beside myself at this result because all I see is a very grim future for this planet, and I can't believe that people ignored that.

I appreciate those who have already posted responses to my comment and didn't make fun of my reaction and took it for what it is. I am sincerely frightened, and I know I am not alone in this sentiment.

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Truth is by nature self-evident, as soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear. Gandhi

...sentiments like yours are the reason you people lost. Seriously. I didn't vote for Bush...I wouldn't have for a thousand dollars...but even I can see it.

You don't care what the people want, or what they believe...you think you have all the answers, and that these answers must be delivered from on high and obeyed as if you were really the elitist intellectuals you pretend to be.

The people didn't buy it this year. Sorry.

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What have you done for your people today?

@PoliticallyIncorrect - It's nice, in the midst of the cacophony of "four more years," to "hear" a voice of reason. We are all going to pay for Bush's victory.

If Bush had lost because moderate republicans jumped the fence, they would have been more likely to nominate a moderate republican in 2008. They now have no need to do that. Likewise, the democrats will go to the far left flank of their party and in 2008 we will, once again, have no one to vote for.

Bush is going to replace at least three supreme court justices. The consequences of the nomination of far-right-wing-religious-zealots on this country could be terrible. Has anyone ever wondered what it was like to live under the Taliban where religious rules ran the place? Well, we could all find out in the near future.

Abortion will be made illegal. Personally, while being (barely) pro-choice, I couldn't care too much about Roe because it has always been clear to me that it was a bad decision and the right was created out thin air. But its abolition will have terrible consequnces on society (more "unwanted" children in a society that can't place the children it already has; more "drug addicted children that no one wants"; more deaths of women who resort to back-room abortions; etc.)

Have you memorized the 10 commandments? Well, you will have the oppportunity because the 10 commandments will be everywhere because the bans on religion will be a thing of the past.

Malpractice lawsuits will be severly limited and legitimate victims will be hurt and people will still be without medical coverage because the main problem with healthcare (i.e. bad doctors and the drug companies) will remain a problem.

I could go on, but I just remembered that: (1) I would never date a woman who would consider an abortion, (2) I am not gay, (3) my doctor is competant, and (4) I am past military age. So, all I can hope is that the people adversely affected by Bush's twisted vision are the same people who voted for him.

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"George W. Bush surrounds himself with smart people the way a hole surrounds itself with a donut." —Dennis Miller

But see, that's exactly my point. If you take the 4 million evangelical zealots out of the equation of last nights elections, Bush would have lost. Why did the evangelical vote? Because of Gay marriage and abortions - not because of the potential fate of this planet. Does that not bother you as someone who didn't vote for Bush? I mean, essentially, Karl Rove just determined this election based on brilliant campaign strategy, not what the actual majority want.

BTW - You can insult me personally all you want - but try something other that 'elitists intellectual'. Because if having an extensive formal education is somehow supposed to be a character flaw - than I'll take it gladly over the ignorance of uneducated lemmings

As B.F. Skinner once said, "I would rather be an knowledgeable slave, than an ignorant one."

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Truth is by nature self-evident, as soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear. Gandhi

The actual majority happened to include those fundamentalist Christians. That's democracy. (shrug)

Or not. I just want you to understand why the majority of the country wasn't buying what you were selling. They just have different beliefs.

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