Moral Values vs Social Values - Page 2

SenaxFlatulus · #11 (**permalink**) 11-08-2004, 06:21 PM

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...(excluding those who lynch blacks, drag gays behind their trucks, and bomb abortion clinics).

That reminds me, I need to get a new chain. My old one is all worn out.

barney-fife · #12 (**permalink**) 11-08-2004, 07:21 PM

borrow mine if you wanna. I only use it during Presidential elections when I'm out supressing the black vote.

Shiloh · #13 (**permalink**) 11-08-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SenaxFlatulus";p=&quot

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Originally Posted by MICcheck";p=&quot

...(excluding those who lynch blacks, drag gays behind their trucks, and bomb abortion clinics).

That reminds me, I need to get a new chain. My old one is all worn out.

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Originally Posted by barney-fife";p=&quot

borrow mine if you wanna. I only use it during Presidential elections when I'm out supressing the black vote.

Tasteless. I've known people who've joked like this on occassion, and then when they're drinking or drunk the jokes become actions...it's really not funny. IMO

tractatus · #14 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 02:05 AM

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Moral Values vs Social Values

Many democrats are wondering why their values were rejected in the 2004 election. My opinion is that the liberal democrats had Social Values and not Moral Values. One might think Social Values and Moral Values are the same, but the Social Values of abortion and homosexuality are absolutely opposite to Moral Values as defined in the Bible. There are many other liberal democratic issues where Social Values are not consistent with Moral Values.

One could think the liberal democrats based their Social Values on Moral Values, but I think the liberal democrats based their Social Values on where they could get the most votes.

Although Social Values of the liberal democrats was rejected by a 51% to 48% margin, the liberal policies of the American judicial system was rejected by a 70% to 30% margin. The liberal democrats got caught up in a backlash against the liberal judicial system. The Supreme Court, the ninth circuit court of appeals in California and Chief Justice Margaret Marshall of Massachusetts had more to do with the election than John Kerry.

Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England states, "THIS law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original."

The key point here is that law was dictated by God himself, it is superior to all other law, and that no laws contrary to the laws dictated by God are valid. A judicial system based on God's law is valid and all others are invalid.

The democratic party had better not look to Bill and Hillary Clinton for leadership. I cannot speak for all Christians but I hate Bill Clinton. The Clinton family represents the total opposite to Moral Values. I also hate New York City and Boston, Massachusetts because they are the epicenter of liberal philosophy. The word hate is appropriate because Christians should hate sin.

Liberal democrats need to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they will understand the difference between Social Values and Moral Values. America needs a revival where the people return to Jesus Christ.

Wow. That's a LOT of hatred for an alleged "Christian". Correct me if I'm wrong but, I thought you Jesus Freaks were supposed to LOVE your neighbors, as you were commanded to do by your imaginary "God" being, in the book "he" <snicker> allegedly wrote? I think you're terribly confused. Maybe you're really a Pagan, and got the two religions crossed at some point?

Deathby · #15 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 02:05 AM

Let me ask you a question barney, which Christian morals do you puport to talk about? Is it the same one which condemns all other religions (or at least those with more than one god)? Is it the one which says witches exist and must be burnt? Whilst mainstream christian morals are generally quite amenable to my tastes, you mustn't forget that it also has many bad stories to tell. I mean what kind of merciful god sends a plague of locusts to destroy his follower's enemies?

And you can't forget that while most mainstream morals are accepted, many are quite controversial. Nominally creationism (and hence mankind is superior to animals etc) and gays-should-all-be-shot-into-the-lowest-pits-of-hell-for-being-an-affront-to-our-god.

On the other hand religion is a nice way of making people do what you want them to. Although that's usually put in a bad context it can be used for good, as shown by its moral-building capabilities.

rockyreagan · #16 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 09:19 AM

How sad really people hear Morals and instead of thinking about people who honestly care about the society around them people think Christian. Then when they thing of Christian it turns into hate because of a few Zealots out there. Witches??? Are you kidding me America has never killed a person because they where a witch. Infect there are many Americans who practice witch craft as there religion and that is there RIGHT. Being intolerant of other religions?? They may preach about there own god because let me guess when people talk about religion they tend to discuss THERE religious views as opposed to the person they are talking to religious view. Except for the far extreme side of Christianity (which is a huge rarity) The vast majority of Christians aren't going 2 go out and kill people because guess what Killing send you to hell in there faith. So stop spreading this ANTI CHRISTIAN HATE!!

Its disgusting and about as bigoted as it gets. IF you guys replaced the word Christian with Jew some of you people could have helped Adolph Hitler write Mien Kampf. I guess freedom of religion and choice no longer matter to liberals. The facts are this IMO.

1. This was not a victory for Christian zealots but for people who are tired of the way America is heading. they are sick of Abortion killing and destroying life, they don't want the TERM MARRIAGE TO CHANGE although I highly doughty the vast majority would mind giving gay partners rights such as begin able to see there partner in a hospital or such. They are tired of seeing the degenerative crap on TV like when Janet Jackson decides to flash everyone in America during the Super Bowl which btw a vast majority of KIDS where watching. We don't care if this stuff happens on Adult programs or late night but during a world famous event? Please give me a break. This wasn't a victory of Christians alone this was a victory for ALL Conservatives who are tired of the degeneration of society and the HATE FILLED TALK that you liberals still spew out of your mouths especially towards Christians.

2. People are tired hearing about Wrong War Wrong Time BS. One at the time NO ONE KNEW if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction but the entire worlds intelligence was saying there was a likely possibility that he did. This combined with the fact of Saddams own past and his refusal to listen to the UN now and in the past sealed the door for most people. Also for most the vast SLAUGHTER that Saddam created for some was enough to justify a invasion for the simple fact that NO ONE was stepping in to stop him not even the UN who's JOB it is to stop such slaughters. Thousands of Jew's Kaurads and his own people SLAUGHTER IN GENOCIDE FOR THE SIMPLE SELFISH DESIRE FOR ONE MAN TO STAY IN POWER!! His power was measured in the blood of the innocent he killed and there are still STILL some liberals who clap and feel sorry for SADDAM AND THE ISLAMIC FASCIST WHO HAVE THAT SAME MINE SET (Bill Marh and his entire audience)

3. Liberals refusal to see evil for what it is. When you have Bill Marh trying to get people to feel sorry for the Islamic fascist and getting some in his audience to clap for Osama Bin Ladin you really see what most elitist liberals are. How many people during WW2 tried to cheer for Hideki Tojo and the rest of Japanese high command when they bombed Pearl Harbor?? I can tell you this you didn't see Bob Hope or any other Star start saying that America deserved it because we where cutting off there oil supply.

4. You liberals really show your true colors when you have the likes of Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy Carter. Many people I know saw this as a sinking move and still see it as such.

I could go on but why bother because if this doesn’t make enough sense to you there is no hope. Button line is I hope that the vast majority of you liberals stop this Christian hating and realize that this was a VICTORY FOR CONSERVATISM and to stop your hate speeches.

barney-fife · #17 (**permalink**) 11-09-2004, 10:23 AM

about the Christian faith is all too apparent. There must be some reason as to why those who are most ignorant about the Chritian faith seem so compelled to make posts criticizing the faith. Not sure why that is. Perhaps it's because bigotry against Christians remains the sole remaining form of acceptable bigotry in our culture.

Fact is, to believers, it's all water off a duck's back.