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Old 11-17-2008, 05:57 AM
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Bobby Jindal,



Amazing that except for Newt, nobody on the right gets this.

Amazing that the folks on this forum don't get this, at all!

You have voted repeatedly, for a bunch of self serving, corrupt, morons.
The problem with your point is that McCain is much closer to Jindal than Bush.
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:08 AM
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You know, when voters tell us that they trust Democrats more to cut their taxes [and] control spending, that tells you something is wrong with the Republican Party. We've got to match our actions with our rhetoric.
That's my number one complaint with the GOP. They consistently say one thing and do the other. They talk the talk, but stopped walking the walk. They are the epitome of big government. They are for it across the board: Fiscally, socially and internationally.

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"Number two, we've got to stop defending the kinds of corruption we would rightfully criticize in the other party. The week before the election, our most senior senator is convicted on federal charges - and that's only the latest example.
Well, both sides do that. This board is rife with it. He's right, but it's not a GOP thing. It would, however, earn them points if they could pull it off. Color me skeptical. Both sides will continue to condone their own while criticizing the other side for the identical thing.

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"Number three, we have got to be the party that offers real solutions to the problems that American voters, American families are worried about. We don't need to abandon our conservative principles; we can't just be the 'party of no.' We need to offer real solutions on making health care more affordable, on the economic challenges facing families, on the international threats."
That would be true.
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:17 AM
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The problem with your point is that McCain is much closer to Jindal than Bush.
Then McCain is a complete idiot.

I disagree with Jindal on several issues......but he'd have done a LOT better against Obama than Palin did....or even McCain.

Except for the importance of racism........
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:00 AM
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The problem with your point is that McCain is much closer to Jindal than Bush.
Baloney.

McCain said:

“We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us,”

I'm sorry but that is such a steaming pile of crap. That's not taking responsibility. Washington changed us? BS, you failed. Own it. Don't blame it on some nebulous "Washington" culture. For crying out loud, you measure most of their tenures in decades, not years.

Statements like that show you exactly why he had zero credibility when he spoke. He's a maverick. He's a reformer. Yeah, right. Whatever.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:35 AM
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Baloney.

McCain said:

“We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us,”

I'm sorry but that is such a steaming pile of crap. That's not taking responsibility. Washington changed us? BS, you failed. Own it. Don't blame it on some nebulous "Washington" culture. For crying out loud, you measure most of their tenures in decades, not years.

Statements like that show you exactly why he had zero credibility when he spoke. He's a maverick. He's a reformer. Yeah, right. Whatever.
Do you have any idea what he was talking about? I don't think you do. That statement was in the context of fiscal conservativism. McCain has always been a voice of fiscal conseratism, even through the last eight years when Bush and his fiscal liberal buddies were spending like democraps.

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Then McCain is a complete idiot.

I disagree with Jindal on several issues......but he'd have done a LOT better against Obama than Palin did....or even McCain.

Except for the importance of racism........
People do not vote for or against vice presidents and Jindal took himself out of consideration very early.

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Do you have any idea what he was talking about? I don't think you do. That statement was in the context of fiscal conservativism. McCain has always been a voice of fiscal conseratism, even through the last eight years when Bush and his fiscal liberal buddies were spending like democraps.
During the campaign McCain's spending proposals would have increased the national debt by over $5 trillion (compared to Obama's proposals to raise the debt by over $3 trillion). That is hardly a conservative fiscal position.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:24 AM
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During the campaign McCain's spending proposals would have increased the national debt by over $5 trillion (compared to Obama's proposals to raise the debt by over $3 trillion). That is hardly a conservative fiscal position.
Campaign "proposals" are a weak argument. When has a campaign ever came through on all/most/half of their BS promises? Show me the history of McCain being a fiscal moron like Obama and Bush.

Also, Obama is going to have to spike taxes even higher if he wants to pay for half of his BS. The tax revenue is not there in a recession... And when he is done killing the economy with those tax hikes, it will be closer to a depression. Better hope he wises up, for your own sake.

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Do you have any idea what he was talking about? I don't think you do. That statement was in the context of fiscal conservativism. McCain has always been a voice of fiscal conseratism, even through the last eight years when Bush and his fiscal liberal buddies were spending like democraps.


People do not vote for or against vice presidents and Jindal took himself out of consideration very early.
There you go again. McCain has always been a voice of fiscal conservatism??? When? He was one of GW's fiscal liberal buddies - voting for his budgets 4 out of five times.

Again - the point is that Republicans - including McCain - betrayed their core beliefs and still refuse to own up and take responsibility for that.

Until they do - nobody will believe a word they say and they will lose even more in upcoming elections.
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There you go again. McCain has always been a voice of fiscal conservatism??? When? He was one of GW's fiscal liberal buddies - voting for his budgets 4 out of five times.

Again - the point is that Republicans - including McCain - betrayed their core beliefs and still refuse to own up and take responsibility for that.

Until they do - nobody will believe a word they say and they will lose even more in upcoming elections.
You must have no faith in your messiah for you to be doling out such nonsense already. You must be afraid of major democrat loses in 2010!
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