Okay. See if you can follow this logic.

* We all know that John McCain is an American Hero. That's obvious.

* After a recent meeting with President elect Obama, McCain pledged his support. Obviously.

* So. Does that mean that all that bullsh*t McCain's campaign said about Obama wasn't true? Obviously.

I mean, if McCain is an American Hero, he can do no wrong, right? And if an American Hero that can do no wrong fully supports Obama, that must mean that Obama is a freedom loving American patriot, right? Obviously.

* Right? Obviously.

(I can imagine the far Right. Their heads are probably exploding right now.)

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Edit: Obviously.

It has to do with how you define "obviously" and "American hero". They are the key to the logical idea. If I may write the logic out i believe you are expressing...

If an American hero is someone who can do no wrong and John McCain is an American hero then John Mccain can do no wrong. If John McCain can do no wrong and John McCain supports Obama then Obama is the perfect choice.

The problem with arguing by logic is that you must use premises that are agreed upon. If an American hero can do wrong or John McCain is not an American hero then the conclusions are not met.

I don't believe anyone defines an American hero as someone that can do no wrong. furthermore, I would challenge the idea that McCain supports Obama only on the principle that he is the president. It's not an endorsement of political views.

If your a tricky little bugger you can start off with premises that are agreed upon and reach a solid conclusion. Intellectually as someone is reading they will agree or disagree with ideas. if you can get them to agree with simple premises that only have one conclusion then you can force them to agree. It's for this reason that logic is said to be a method of pointing out the obvious.

In observation of your argument i feel it has a cynical nature to it. where you feel as though certain people feel such a way and go on to create logic based on how you see them only to conclude it makes no sense. the secret conclusion is that these group of people are morons in this type of argument.

hopefully i sounded someone coherent and offered some insight. I've put a lot of thought into logic.

If McCain helps Obama then McCain is palling around with someone who pals around with terrorists

Who says American Heroes can do no wrong?

Pete Rose was an American Hero to many...

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John McCain was heroic in the past - in the present, not so much. He could have been on the Olympic team if flip-flopping and genuflecting to neo-cons were competitive sports.

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John McCain served honorably while imprisoned as a POW but that does not make him a hero. There is nothing heroic about being captured by the enemy.

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OBVIOUSLY, Obama needs all the help he can get!

there is about surviving, and not giving away anything about your country

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Your right TD, there is nothing heroic about being captured by the enemy. Below is what makes him a hero

He could have said to hell with everyone else, he had a chance get out of there.

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There is in FACT something Heroic about being captured and refusing to be let go because you will wait your turn.

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