Wow...This is why we are divided. We are in such a hurry to express our opinions we fail to listen to others.

First of all I am not some bleeding heart liberal. I vote right down the middle. Hell, I voted for Bush's daddy.

I am glad Afghanistan had a succesful election. At least that is what we are told. I hope it is true. If all of our troops were there I would a huge supporter of the war. But there lies the problem: We went to Iraq and every reason the Bush team said we went has been proven false.

The bad guys were in Afghanistan people. We didn't we send the majority over there? We sent our troops to another country that had nothing to do with 9/11. That's not an opinion. It's been proven. Look it up.


I doubt any election in Iraq will succeed. I hope it does but look at this with open eyes. What you now have is a country full of Timothy McVeighs. And to add to the "fun" the USA have now given them a reason to fight not to mention a nice juicy target. Please remind yourself the insurgents are not a relative handful. They are well armed, well trained and well financed. And most of all they will keep on coming and they don't mind dying.

You conservatives really need to grasp that concept.

The Iraqi people have told us to leave. There have been television statements, signs, newsapaper reports. The list goes on and on. They are sick and tired of watching their children and mothers die.

Do yourself a favor: If you believe the Iraq war is worth it go over there yourself and volunteer. After burying a few hundred children you might change your mind.

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This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.
George W. Bush

Bush wants to pour another 80 billion into Iraq next year. Don't you think that money could go somewhere else? Like here?

Also, you do realize a draft will be installed. Even Kerry would have installed it. I hope none of you are 18 to 22 years old.

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This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.
George W. Bush

Link? This is utter crap. No politician would dare do this, barring a full-on assault from a foreign country. Total BS.

Nice opinion. Link?

Link?

All sources that I have seen state that the Iraqi people want us there, but only if we provide better security. Valid issue to discuss and debate, but your opinions, um, not so much. Part of trying to improve the security is happening right now in Fallujah. Security DOES need to improve.

Here's some quotes from a coworker who is in Iraq now, under daily attack. (Man, I wish he would email more regularly...)

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Sorry to those that have seen these clips before. I just hate all of the doom and gloom...

It's very refreshing to see a liberal admit this flaw in himself.

I voted for Clinton both terms. BFD.

If it talks like a liberal and quacks like a liberal...

Exactly...because there is no way you can possibly believe it./ Because it means that Bush was correct about something, and it pains liberals to no end to admit that.

Saddam had a history of non-cooperation, and the UN refused to enforce it's own rules. Had those two things not been true, we would not have invaded.

I consider Saddam and his government to fit the definition of "bad guys" too...but thats just me.

Apparently it wasnt necessary...as we said, there were no major incidents disrupting their elections.

Oh yeah, but that would be admitting Bush did somthing right. What was I thinking...of course we cant have that.

The opinion that the war was about 911 is false.

Where have I heard that before...oh yeah. Now I remember. i heard it about Afghanistan a few months before their election.

How do you know that? You keep making all these assumption, but you have no way of knowing that. Where is your proof?

Are they even more than 1% of the total population? What is your evidence either way?

<1% = Relative handful. Do you disagree?

When? Who spoke for them? Your telepathic powers are insufficient evidence of this.

The signs, television statements and newspaper repots = the will of the people? Is this your logic?

Should we adopt that system over here too?

Non-military personel arnt allowed to have an opinion on the war...is that what you are saying? Please clarify your statement.

A few hundred is preferrable to a few thousand. A few thousand is preferrable to a hundred thousand.

There is no issue more important than Defense. Period.

The only people who have even suggested a draft so far are Democrats. Actually, they did more than suggest it. Fortunately for all of us, Republicans voted them down...be sure to thank them.

Exactly. Thank you for proving my point for me.

Bush has not even hinted at a desire to bring back the draft. Oh boy are you on the wrong side of the fence, heh heh

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I'll get nicer when you get smarter.

- You could get in a car in Virginia Beach, VA and drive to the coast of California without going through a single blue state (until you arrive in CA).

- Democrats have lost 7 of the last 10 presidential elections.

- The last Democrat to achieve a majority vote in a Presidential election was 1976...and that was by 1/10th of a point (Carter received 50.1% of the vote).

- Democrats have not controlled the house or the senate for 10 years.

- Democrats have not controlled the majority of gubernatorial positions for 10 years.

- The following "blue states" currently have a Republican governor: Hawaii, California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Maryland, and Minnesota.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

My friend I wish you well. I wish us all well.

We could go back and forth until our fingers are numb and most people do. I disagree with you and you disagree with me. But thank God we live in a country where all is fair.

Sadly, my points may be proven right in the coming years. Do I hope I am wrong? Yes.

Remember one thing: The most surprising part of last weeks election was that 55 million voted for a northestern Liberal during a time of a terrorist threat.


Peace.

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George W. Bush

Several other things spell doom for the Democrats.

- The fastest growing ethnic group in America (Latinos) are increasingly supporting the Republicans. Every election year, the Republican candidate has added more Latino votes as their population also increases. The Democrats may soon only have a minority of Latino supporters, that is a VERY bad thing for the Democratic party.

- The Red states are growing in population, while by and large the Blue states are DECREASING in population. I think it's quite obvious why that's bad for Democrats.

- This country is seemingly on the verge of a religious revival. Though relgion is nearly dead in most of Europe, it is thriving in the United States, and the Republicans are definately riding that wave big time.

- There Republican party has done an excellent job of putting minorities in high positions. To date there are three cabinet members who are minorities and one Supreme Court Justice, all appointed by Repbulicans. This could eat away at minorites who vote Democrat.

- More women have voted for a Republican than in the past. Again, this is not good for Democrats who rely so heavily on women voters.

The list goes on and on and on.....

Bush invaded Iraq to enforce UN rules... and how is this in the best interest of the USA?

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

Saddam was a volitile dictator known to be hostile to the US and to have ties to terrorists. At the time we believed he had or was seeking WMDS, up to and including nukes. He was known to interfere with inspections many times, making it unable to verify his claims that he did not have and was not seeking WMDs.

Even liberals at the time (like Edwars) believed he was lying. It was not some fabrication or mind control from Bush. Given what we knew at the time, an invasion was appropriate. We had already tried diplomacy.