Um...no. Most of us made that decision. Both via polls and via our elected representatives. It was not just Bush. Stop trying to absolve congress of it's responsibility in this war.

Liberals only complain about the present situation. They rarely offer alternatives, if ever.

The alternative was worse.

The alternative is worse.

Translation: "No Sadistic Savior, we do not have any real alternative to the present course Bush has selected".

Now that you know the reality of the situation, perhaps you'd rather discuss imaginary hypothetical alternate scenarios instead? If so, then go on ahead and start a new thread about it.

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By Alternative I meant What should Bush be doing now other than what he is doing? Jeez...do I have to spell it out?

You dont like his performance...fine. What should he be doing instead? It's not a hard question.

My obvious implication is that liberals have no betetr solution. They dont mind complaining, but cant offer a better alternative.

What should Bush be doing now other than what he is doing... regarding the invasion of Iraq,

..like I already told you, there is no alternative. There is only reality. Bush broke it, the people must now pay for it.

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If you have nothing betetr to suggest, why are you complaining about Bush's performance in Iraq?

Because you think it was a good idea to go there to begin with (see beginning of our conversation).

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The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

Now that we have answered the question of whether or not it was in the best interest of the USA to enforce UN rules (as you mentioned earlier), Lets now talk about the concept of personal responsibility as you mentioned it here:

I said that "Pres.Bush made the decision to invade Iraq.", you said "Um...no.".

Now I must ask, regarding George W. Bush..

Is he or is he not the president of the USA?
Is he or is he not the commander-in-chief of all US armed forces?
Does he or does he not have final say on whether to invade another country?
Did he or did he not give final approval for the invasion Iraq?


So... who's decision was it to invade Iraq?

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The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

Is he or is he not a puppet to his own government?

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George W. Bush

Did or did not congress grant him that authority?

Did or did he not do what the majority of Americans wanted him to do?

Was he or was he not re-elected after making the decision to invade Iraq?

Does or does not Congress have the ability to take that decision away from him?

Anyone who could have prevented it, and anyone who gave their consent.

Or are you suggesting the President should not do what the majority of Americans want him to do?

I certainly hope so...seeing as we elect that government.

But now you dont have a better alternative...so it sounds like you should have voted for Bush. According to you there isnty anyone who could do better right now.

Ahh loyalty. Thats an admirable trait to have in a person, but blind faith isn't.

Sadistic, George is a big boy now. He can take personal responsibility for his actions. You don't need to defend him on everything... it makes the president look less of a man.

Could one of the other conservatives here please explain the concepts of personal responsibility and critical thinking to Sadistic? Senax, Catz, EuP, G-1, Pinniped, Tricky... someone, anyone? One of your brethren seems to be lost. Unless ofcourse if SS is the type of person that like to argue for arguements case, if thats the case then I don't blame you for not wanting to waste your time with him.



PS
SadS, why do you think I'm not upset about Bush winning?
He needs to be given a chance to fix the mess he has gotten the USA into. If he didn't win, we'll never hear the end of "if only bush won, things would be better" whining from the RNC 4 years from now and the division within the union will only get worse.

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts