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    In the private residence he should have whatever he pleases.

    In the public part of the White House there should be NOTHING.
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    He'll have neither. As a Muslim, he'll be celebrating Eid al-Adha, during which he'll reflect on his hatred for infidels and whites and formulate his plan to restore the Caliphate and implement Sharia in the United States.
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    I believe Obama has priorities..............LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post
    In the private residence he should have whatever he pleases.

    In the public part of the White House there should be NOTHING.

    NOTHING! In caps. WHY? Why is the free expression of religion in the public sphere such anethema to you?


    America is far and away neither menaced by a state religion, nor in danger of having the general rights and liberties of the citizens unduly restrained by religion. The expression of cultural beliefs of Americans in the public sphere is called FREEDOM. Your "NOTHING" squarely implies that religion, which provided inumerable social mores against vice and injustice throughout human history, is suspect.


    If this disgusting travesty can be protected in the public sphere

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(*)(*)(*)(*)_Christ

    or this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues

    (Pro-sex feminist Betty Dodson, author of several books about female sexuality, saw the play as having a negative and restrictive view of sexuality and an anti-male bias. She called the play a blast of hatred at men and heterosexuality. Individualist feminist Wendy McElroy shared many of Dodson's views.)

    SO CAN RELIGION BE PROTECTED AND CHERISHED IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE.


    Each of these "Artistic expressions" were widely funded by the National Endowment for the Arts.

    I have a degree in Art, by the way-the Christian Church's role in promoting the Arts and Architecture throughout Western Civilizations history can fill volumes.

    And unlike ural of urine filled with someone elses cherished symbols as in "(*)(*)(*)(*) Christ", we produced this:

    http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images...e-interior.jpg

    and this:

    http://www.needlework-tips-and-techn...inci-angel.jpg

    But Christianity is not the only faith to produce great art and architecture.

    The Muslims produced this:

    http://photos.igougo.com/images/p107...a-Alhambra.jpg

    and even a cursory survey of world art would include untold treasures and beauty created by the various religions of the world.


    Please, let's cut the baloney and anti-religous bias from the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lita456 View Post
    I believe Obama has priorities..............LOL!

    hahahaha will he change black jack;s name too ?
    and with that logic wouldnt africa become "white"?
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    A christmas tree for christmas. He can have muslim decorations during Rahamdam and Jewish ones during Hanaka. Why would he have a "holiday tree" when it's only christmas.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Americans only start saying "happy holidays" becuase it includes Thanks Giving and Halloween?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke9-05 View Post
    The wing in which the tree would probably be located is considered the President's living quarters and not part of the "public" institution of the White House. He can have a tree there and call it whatever the hell he wants to.
    No, I do not think so. Situations like this end up being political. The presidency should never be confused with any religious beliefs, ever. Bush should be fined for say God Bless this and God Bless that. He was taking an extremist view of the Presidency and Obama should normalize this.
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    Bigotry and racism is also a tradition in America. Should we continue those as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny. View Post
    A christmas tree for christmas. He can have muslim decorations during Rahamdam and Jewish ones during Hanaka. Why would he have a "holiday tree" when it's only christmas.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Americans only start saying "happy holidays" becuase it includes Thanks Giving and Halloween?
    Halloween is not a holiday lol
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