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Old 12-04-2008, 07:23 AM
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A fringe blog.

These stats are erroneous, they attempt to portray Homosexuality in a light of acceptance.

It is quite the opposite, I find homosexuality unacceptable.

I like to think that gays could be helped to become an acceptable part of a moral society if we ridiculed them daily, maybe spit on them, possibly subject them to torture and death. If I saw a homosexual twitching on the ground from a heart attack I'd step right over them,.. I mean they really disgust me. I see them as without any value as human beings so long as they continue in their lifestyle

There might be other alternatives that would make them acceptable in society as the op suggest,.. but I cant see it.

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Wow.
Almost got me.
This should be um....interesting.
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Hard labor.
So do real Christians boycott all companies that keep stores open on Sundays?
Interestingly many of those companies are owned by Christians...
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The Bible clearly indicates that homosexuality is a sin.

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For what reason?


What did Jesus say on the subject, though?
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So do real Christians boycott all companies that keep stores open on Sundays?
Interestingly many of those companies are owned by Christians...
That's up to them.

I try to recognize Sunday as the Lord's day...obviously, having previous jobs
and having served in the military, it is almost impossible to avoid working on a Sunday.
but God knows my heart...

We could play this game all day...you could provide Bible passages indicating
eating shrimp is a sin...I've heard it all before.

Homosexuality...same gender sex...the behavior....I find it immoral.

Adultery is also immoral to me but that's not the topic, the topic is homosexuality...
same gender sexual relations...and yes...it's immoral by the code I follow...and the
code book is Scripture.

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All the ones the majority of Americans are in favor of are far more serious matters the marriage in my opinion (adoption/hate crimes/military service). It just goes to show how irrational people's opinions are when it comes to anything that so much as has a religious connotation to it.
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I try to recognize Sunday as the Lord's day...obviously, having previous jobs
and having served in the military, it is almost impossible to avoid working on a Sunday.
but God knows my heart....
Do you advocate ending hard labor in the military?
Do you boycott stores that are open on Sunday?

My point is that everyone gets all cockeyed over ensuring that there are constitutional ammendments to ban gay marriage, that gays be excluded from the military, that we keep gay people away from kids...

And yet we have all this other sin going on that no one wants to do anything about. In fact Christians contribute to it daily... except maybe the Amish.
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Do you advocate ending hard labor in the military?
Do you boycott stores that are open on Sunday?

My point is that everyone gets all cockeyed over ensuring that there are constitutional ammendments to ban gay marriage, that gays be excluded from the military, that we keep gay people away from kids...

And yet we have all this other sin going on that no one wants to do anything about. In fact Christians contribute to it daily... except maybe the Amish.
Gays are not banned from the military.
They can serve...just not as openly gay.

That has nothing to do with religion, it's about unit cohesion and the detrimental
nature of an openly gay person serving among large same gender living conditions.

What the military does with this issue, is up to them. Less than 1% of the population serve in it, and I resent the other 99% telling them how to run their outfit.

and I thought the issue was homosexualtiy, not hard labor on Sunday?

Why don't you start on thread on hard labor on Sunday and I'll comment about that...
there.

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Gays are not banned from the military.
They can serve...just not as openly gay..
Same difference. It's not like there is a working gaydar. The point is people seem to care a lot about that and gay marriage... enough to do something, enough to sacrifice other priorities.
The same is not true of hard work on Sunday, adultery, greed (imagine if greedy people were barred from business by an ammendment), etc.
Only homosexuals seem to warrant such motivated religious consciousness.
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Marriage or Domestic Partnership
Three-quarters of U.S. adults (75%) favor either marriage or domestic partnerships/civil unions for gay and lesbian couples. Only about two in 10 (22%) say gay and lesbian couples should have no legal recognition. (Gay and lesbian couples are able to marry in two states, and comprehensive civil union or domestic partnership laws exist in only five others and the District of Columbia.)

Open Military Service
Almost two-thirds (64%) of U.S. adults favor allowing openly gay military personnel to serve in the armed forces. (The current “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” law bans military service by openly gay personnel.)

Extensions toward Hate Crime Laws
About six in 10 (63%) U.S. adults favor expanding hate crime laws to cover gay and transgender people. (Hate crimes laws cover gay and transgender people in 11 states and the District of Columbia, and an additional - 20 states’ laws cover sexual orientation but not gender identity.)

Adoption
Nearly seven out of 10 U.S. adults (69%) oppose laws that would ban qualified gay and lesbian couples from adopting children. (In several states, gay and lesbian couples are banned from adopting.)

More statistics here.
Strange then how measures to limit it or prohibit it seem to always pass on a ballot in multiple states including the most liberal one!

Seems your "statistics" are badly flawed!
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Same difference. It's not like there is a working gaydar. The point is people seem to care a lot about that and gay marriage... enough to do something, enough to sacrifice other priorities.
The same is not true of hard work on Sunday, adultery, greed (imagine if greedy people were barred from business by an ammendment), etc.
Only homosexuals seem to warrant such motivated religious consciousness.
I don't care what gays do...
I simply find it immoral.

I do not accept it as normal behaviior to have same gender sexual relatons.

I do not accept a merried person having sexual relations with someone outside of their
marital spouse...

I do not accept stealing.....

I don't have a personal vendetta against the gay community...they can choose this behavior
...however don't tell me it's A-Okay...because by my moral code it is not acceptable
behavior....and I have a right to my morality as you have a right to your lack of it.

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