Originally Posted by tresha

I respect your beliefs and especially that you endeavor to live by them.
It's been an especially horrible 36 hours for me, specifically as it pertains to being denied basic rights available to others who would be considered legally married by now. If I've come across harsh, I really do apologize.

I honest to God don't want to push my beliefs on anyone.
I don't want to push an agenda and try as much as I can, can't find this mysterious "Gay Agenda" folks keeping talking about. (Crap. Think I just mixed two different posters. sorry)

I've never claimed that anyone has to accept my being gay is morally acceptable.
My sister and I have had many conversations about this.
It would be arrogant of me in the extreme to insist that my morals and my beliefs be imposed and forced on someone else.

I don't wish that.

I only, truly wish for the same chance at rights and legal protection that I see others have.
And it angers me at times that one of the things preventing this, is having belief systems imposed on me, in form of laws being enacted that restrict my life.

Edited:
Yeah, I mixed posters.
@ algranny. I dunno where you're getting your info, but the homos I hang around with? Yeah we're not so much with the insisting that our sexuality is "normal to everyone".
I am aware that not every woman has or likes to have sex with another woman. Same with men/men.
What is "normal", and often boring, is our life. Just our everyday, go to the grocery store, walk the dog...watch some sports, clean the house...day to day life.
Except when it comes to a glaring little thing like being denied rights and protections. Then it gets sticky.

Originally Posted by algranny

There is a "gay agenda", it teaches "tolerance of homosexual's" to children 5-6 years old..

Originally Posted by algranny

Most parents don't want their children exposed to that info at their ages, and children that age aren't interested in the sexual habits of adults. This same agenda was used in California, Mass. overturning the will of the people with their votes, Judges overruling the votes of the people in those states supporting Gay Marriage..

Originally Posted by Jellah

No the "gay agenda" seeks equal RIGHTS IN THE EYES OF THE LAW...you are free to be as much of a bigot as you like. And btw, you are called bigoted when you harbor bigotted attitudes...just like a racist is called a racist when they harbor racist views!

Equal rights is something your family will just have to put up with because I see no reason to stop any and all efforts to end discrimination....and it will end.

Originally Posted by algranny

Your statement reflects the great "I", as if the rest of america has no choice in their freedoms, how bigotted of you! It seems that your opinion is far more important than anyone elses. That Sir is called BIGOTTED, look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Lackluster

For what reason?


What did Jesus say on the subject, though?

Originally Posted by PatriotNews

Let me rephrase the first question, "would you prefer your child be a heterosexual, or a homosexual?"

Originally Posted by Ironman

For the same reason God isnt big on murder,.. and what did jesus say about why that was wrong?
He didnt break it down for analytical debate, he just said referenced his fathers word on the subject.

God said he destest homosexuality

What else did he need to say?

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

Tolerance should be taught. Tolerance is the acceptance of other people's rights as human beings, required to occupy the same living space as someone and deal with other people in the real world.
No one is taught that you must like everyone else or agree with their decisions/opinions/whatnot. But you must, at the very least, treat them decently, and avoiding arbitrary discrimination helps too.
People are also taught to tolerate people with different religious upbringings... It's part of existing in a heterogenous society.


It doesn't involve graphic sexual content. Kids see their moms and dads together before they understand what sex is. They learn that is normal. Fine. The point of tolerance is teaching them that they will end up coexisting with people who live in mommy-and-daddy-like ways with members of the same sex.

Originally Posted by algranny

Tresha,

No it doesn't. It just simply does not. These rulings can be and are challenged all the time. Since legally my next of kin is my parents, they are entitled to question any choice I or my partner make, even with legal paperwork. This is true even though I've not spoken with them in several years.
This would NOT be the case if we were allowed to be recognized by the gov't as a legally bound couple.
Please, please don't tell me I know less about this than I do, I just went through all this 2 days ago. (in real life, not here on the boards)

Originally Posted by Ironman

If you are a Christian, and you are tolerant of sin, you deny your faith.