I dont know what you base this belief on,.. but the bible addresses Homosexuality.

Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13

1st Corinthians 6:9 and 6:11.

I dont know if your trying to make an abstract argument,.. but God was pretty clear on the whole thing.

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I can understand why people say "God bless America",.. what I cannot grasp is why he should.

Tresha, I'm sorry you have had some trying times in the last several days. The same could be said for hetero couples who chose to live together for a number of years without marriage. I've seen it happen to married people, going before a judge, with family members disagreeing with the spouse, regarding medical decisions or possessions, or insurance benefits. It is not just a problem for the homosexual community.

I'm sorry, I don't see the discrimination, I see it as a common problem for all, concerning legal rights and relationships.

I do however see the discrimination for those who disagree, based upon whatever reasoning a individual has for making that decision. Our rule of law, currently, allows the people to vote on a proposal, they have, many times. There are many laws that seem discriminatory to many groups. Should everyone push for their groups agenda?

Not being BigRed, nor playing him/her on the TV, I can but speculate. So speculate I shall.
There is a school of thought that holds forth the behaviors written of in the Bible were not the same as a same-sex couple might be today; i.e, one practicing monogamy, paying taxes, just bing a normal, average boring couple, other than two women or two men.

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Even though I know I run the risk of it painting me in bad light, I just don't know that I'll ever forgive Kim for lying to JD about their son.

Every living thing in nature has a male and a female co part, it is the natural law.
Parents should be the ones teaching their children about morals based upon their beliefs. not society, nor teachers.

Christians are to "resist" evil,.. and speak against it,.. God hasnt told his people to occupy a land and slaughter all that live there so that they wont take up their ways for a long time.

How can the Christians seperate themselves from the world? They are on this planet in vast numbers.

The biblical term world applys to the lust there of.

The Bible clearly states "SIN" will allways be amongst you.

That too is only sort of right,.. Lets use your words,"pick and choose"

People often choose to adhere to rules that have extreme moral consequence such as murder or sexual imorality,.. but they may completely over look coveting their neighbors house.

Is that because they picked that sin to harbor?,.. of course not!

What does paul say in Romans? I do what I dont want to,.. who will save me from this body of death? PRAISE be to the Lord Jesus Christ, for in him is my salvation.

Its everything,.. the walk of a Christian is to strive for perfection,.. why would anyone compromise their values in one area just because they are weak in another. If an athelete is weak in one area does he let the rest of his body go?

No, he trains harder, and works to strenghten that which is weak. Likewise we as Christians are to overcome through the power of the Lord. That is the way the Lord has directed us to seperate ourselves.

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I can understand why people say "God bless America",.. what I cannot grasp is why he should.

Really I do believe that arguments can be made for and against homosexual rights without the inclusion of morality and religion. Arguments can be made on a scientific and societal grounds. Those that do bring in religious morality are trying to impose their moral beliefs on others, and those that attack them on their moral beliefs are exibiting the same bigotry they claim they are fighting.

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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter
"I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others." -- Ann Coulter on Fox News 6/22/09
“I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.” -- Ronald Reagan

Tolerance also means allowing decisions provided they don't hurt others (no thoughts can hurt others, as far as I know) and coexisting in society with people who make them.

Where is the intolerance you are sensing? I disagree... and you tolerate. You disagree... and I tolerate. Have I attacked your house or attempted to pass a law to silence you from sharing opinions forever?

You haven't cared to look. It doesn't make the news because it's normal in the places it happens. The term "gay-bashing" doesn't come from nowhere... and no, it does not refer to insulting.


Not starfish or amoebas.
Besides that, a lot of human behaviors that are "natural" are counterproductive, and many that are "unnatural" have no effect on anyone whatsoever. Some "unnatural" behaviors are actually beneficial... Hell, our whole society is unnatural!
The "nature" argument means little. It sounds like an appeal to paganism.

Tolerance is not about morality. Judgement is morality. Tolerance is about coexistence. Without coexistence, society fragments.
If schools aren't supposed to teach coexistence, what is the justification for them teaching civics or job skills?

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Not if they are openly gay, they shouldn't be allowed in my dressing room IMHO. Why should I be forced to undress next to someone that I know is attracted to males (not that he would be attracted to me, mind you)? It wouldn't be any different to me if they were women undressing next to me. And professionalism has nothing to do with it.

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Who's talking about pedophiles? Most of these girls are 18.

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Democrats don't believe in Democracy unless they are running it.
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Ok... One can be tolerant and still speak against evil. Tolerance is about the person and that person's right to a decision in the context of the place of coexistence.
For example if you cannot tolerate different people in the workplace, you should be the one leaving.
School is another setting where different people must coexist. Wherever coexistence is inevitable, tolerance is a necessity.
Polite discourse is compatible with tolerance. Attacking, disrupting, or oppressing is not.


So? They still seem to think society is evil. Governments still belong to the proverbial Caesar. Plus most of them don't even do the most basic things asked of them in the New Testament and are basically CINOs.
Hell, the really religious call them out on it when convenient (times other than when they need to talk about this being a "Christian country").

And? Christians regularly buy from stores where people are made to work on the sabbath (not to mention companies that use cheap labor in corrupt nations). That is putting lust for material over principle.

Yeah, yeah. I know it's all about faith, not works. That's another pet peeve I have about modern Christianity.

But I already gave the example.
Why put so much effort into legally excluding gays, but not for adultery, greed, working on the sabbath, etc. Homosexuality doesn't fall anywhere near the level of murder.

The fact remains that the choices of where to be strong and weak are not random.
The obsession with homosexuality is due to disgust, not morality.

And this has what to do with attempting to use Caesar's domain to control "sin" in others?

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"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money."

-George Carlin