Why should he have to go elsewhere because you're so insecure?

Oh really? Then why is it okay to undress in front of a doctor of the opposite sex? And for those against that, there are usually nurses around too.
How about male gynocologists?

They're professionals. They know not to let their sexual attractions get in the way of professional boundaries. Hell, even business and government bureaucrats need to use professionalism to cut out sexual harassment.
People are way too obsessed with the idea that nudity is inherently sexual. It's that neurosis that causes the problem.

And for the love of hell... inthe military is the idea that a gay person might be in the shower really the most uncomfortable thing a soldier is going to face?!

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Gays getting married doesnt TAKE AWAY YOUR FREEDOMS but your attitude denies them theirs. You dont have to like it or go to any of the weddings but the fact that you support denying them equal rights is a bigot position and view....them getting married and having equal access to priviledges and rights denies NO ONE their rights or priviledges.

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There is a HUGE difference between a hetero sexual who have chosen NOT to get married to be denied the rights and priviledges of marriage and a gay couple who arent ALLOWED to get married!

I find it hard to believe you actually compared the two!

Should blacks have just put up with the discrimination they suffered as well? Can the majority vote to re-institute it?

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I said I wasn't talking about pedophiles, nor did I think you were.

Just because I have an attraction to women, does not mean I have an attraction to 18 yos.
And I should hope that one's professionalism would preclude them from becoming involved with a student/athlete whatever the orientation.

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Even though I know I run the risk of it painting me in bad light, I just don't know that I'll ever forgive Kim for lying to JD about their son.

Java for all your talk of tolerance, you haven't been very tolerant of others right to disagree. Our laws provide for ways to settle policy disagreements, it's called voting. So far no one has been tolerant of those votes, nor respectful of those votes. Again were is the tolerance for the people who disagree for whatever their reasons??????

There are many laws that I disagree with, and feel may be discriminatory on many levels, but must still respect the laws. Homosexuals are not the only group that feel they are discriminated against. should all of these groups get the recognition they want as well?

Who is advocating that it be ILLEGAL for you disagree? You fail to understand..its the law that should be changed and not allowed to discriminate. You can make sure to never let a gay person darken your doorstep for all I care...its the laws that shouldnt be discriminating.

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*thread hijack*

I would think an attracton to 18 year olds is normal.
Regardless of one's age.

Acting on these attractions is of course another matter.

I see no problem with a lesbian coach as long as the coach did not act out
on any attraction to the students or abuse the authority of coach and mentor.

Same goes for a male coaching say a girl's softball team..

The color of ones skin is something that can't be changed, it is genetic, their race is who they are. Homosexuality is a choice made by people. There is a difference, and to compare the two is like apples and oranges.

Marriage is a privilege, not a right. It is a privilege defined by God as between a man and a woman, utilized by societies over the centuries. Why should it be redefined to accommodate a group mentality.

I haven't? How so?

followed by more dispute and more voting until the dispute ends or becomes marginal.
Voting does not end disputes. It sets current law. Actually most of the time it sets reps who then deliberate and vote on law... In this case we have ballot initiatives that are distorted, dishonestly marketed, and given directly to the people so that NO individual can be held accountable for the result. It seems to be the only way to get an extremely polarizing law through, since reps would either avoid it or find middle ground.
But ballot initiatives do not end debates.

Funny. I'm not breaking the law (I guess that's not too much trouble since I'm straight and married in Michigan). I'm not advocating for anyone else to.
I do argue that it's a stupid law... and that ballot initiatives are a way to pass laws dishonestly and without accountability and make them harder to reverse...
But that is called having an opinion.

If you think I have to shut up now that the vote has gone through... who's intolerant?

You have to follow them, not respect them. You have to respect the sovereignty of the people who passed it... but not the permanence of the law, the rightness of the law, or whatever...
And in some cases, breaking the law is the only way to fight an unjust law... This isn't one of them, partially because it's impossible to break (since the action is technically the state's recognition). Protesting, writing reps, debating, voting on another ballot... those are the proper methods to fight it.

Within reason. Not those that hurt others obviously.

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-George Carlin

Then it has no place in the state. You should lobby to see all state recognition of marriage outlawed in order to protect its sanctity.
Instead only civil unions should be allowed for all married couples (that's my stance, but it seems consistent with the whole "keep marriage holy" thing... no skin off my back, I was married by a judge).

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-George Carlin