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Old 12-24-2008, 10:31 PM
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A site I think might say it better than I could is:
www.godandscience.org
Excellent site. Couldnt have said it better myself.

If you need a sign just go outside and look up....theres your sign!
I read some of it and I am tired of these articles. 90% of what I saw there were some lame problems like: "What about atrocities that have been done in the name of religion?" and "Does the Presence of Natural Evil Argue Against the Existence of God? Why Natural Evil Must Exist?". These are such unimportant matters. Also site makes a lot of claims basing them on theories. I guess the main problem with this site is that it tries to explain something that we can't explain jet with god. Can't it just stay unexplained until we do so.
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you should jump off a bridge wearing your tinfoil hat.

btw, I have a bridge for sale
And what, waste a tinfoil hat, no way.

Is that the best you can do?
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. . . I feel that it is just a matter of time when this crowd starts to bother scientific work. . . .
But Toon' we already live in that world. The image of Galileo capitulating to the political-religious long knives of his time, admitting on pain of his life that "black" is actually "white" (observational evidence notwithstanding), is replayed every day. In our time it plays out in more insidious ways as when scientists scramble for grant funding and avoid areas of inquiry that have no chance of support unless conforming to the current political-religious view.

However, we should stand back and take in the wider horizon; that truth based on human logic applied to nature's phenomena takes a tortuous path. Mankind prospers in direct relationship to the extent that process is unencumbered by political-religious belief systems.
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I concur, Toonik. Personally, I find it extremely creepy to worship a dead corpse nailed on a cross. Christianity looks like some kind of death cult.
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