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Old 01-12-2009, 06:50 AM
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What interests? Oil? Camon, can you really be that overwhelmingly retarded? If the war was for oil then we would care less about rebuilding the country and installing a democratically elected government. We would want a dictatorship that appeased american interests and not Iraqi interests. As of right now, they have written up an agreement to get us out of Iraq, and they have denied several american 0il contractors and oil companies work in Iraq. This does not seem like a very sucessful war for oil if you ask me. If the war was about oil, it would have been a much easier sell to the american people invade, say, Saudi Arabia. They have a lot more oil, and a lot more terrorists also. Why have we not invaded Mexico.. There is a possibly sell there for a war also. If Mexico can not control its boarder, Bush could have possibly sold us on an invasion there. There is lots of oil there to be had as well. Why not mention the other 10-15 countries where vast oil reserves are located that we could easily invade right now. It would make no sense at all to invade Iraq simply for oil.


Why do countries fight wars? Is oil the only american interest? How about national security? Do you read the posts people right? Read my first post in this thread! Because at the moment, you are arguing with yourself.
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Why do countries fight wars? Is oil the only american interest? How about national security? Do you read the posts people right? Read my first post in this thread! Because at the moment, you are arguing with yourself.

When most people say American interest, they are refering to consumerism and natural resources. To invade simply for strategic interests would be retarded as well. Strategic interests for what?? Strategic interests or "national security" is usually protecting resources that are vital to our existence. How many resources does Iraq have? If Iraq had this vast ammount of resources that america could not do without, why is the Iraqi population so poor. The only resources Iraq has is Sand and oil. If you take oil out of the equation as to why we would invaded then what other resource would there possibly be that we can not do without in Iraq? Cab drivers???? I just don't get it. Is it that hard to believe that america actually had good intentions, that bush may have actually had good intentions? Why is this so hard to believe?

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When most people say American interest, they are refering to consumerism and natural resources.


Did you read my other post? I can't tell. You might have. If not I will post it here.


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This never was about oil. That is correct, and libs who say otherwise don't understand the situation properly. What it was about was geopolitical strategy. About gaining a foothold, and a base of power right in the center of a giant problem area. Bush and his friends thought that by putting a large amount of troops in Iraq, it would strengthen our position in the middle east, because we would be able to rapidly respond to any threat. The problem was that the rebuilding after the war was far more difficult than we thought it would be, and it actually strengthened Iran's position. And even if it didn't drastically weaken our position, it certainly didn't make it stronger to justify spending a few trillion dollars and losing thousands of lives.


As dumb as it is to think we fought over oil. It is even dumber to think we fought to spread freedom. We fought to spread american interests in the region.
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IMO the hollywood elite seem to think that because they make movies, and have name recognition that also gives the ability too sway opinions in their direction. Many of their movies against the military, and Bush have failed in the box office, yet they remain convinced that they hold authority in truth. For this reason, I have discontinued watching any movies, or any award shows that gives them a pulpit to voice those opinions. They are totally disconnected from the price it takes to continue their freedom in making controversial films, and the price paid by so many to continue voicing their dissent. Simply because someone has the ability to entertain, doesn't automatically give them the ability to govern, nor think they have forethought in protecting this nation.
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Well, getting back to what the article was saying. I agree. Especially with HOllywood continually trying to demonize America. The Michael Moore's and Susan Sarandon's and the like. They are paid to do a job, and that job is act. I have no interest in what an un-educated actor has to say on the matters of the United States. The truth of the matter is, my 8th graders have more of an education than do all the celebrities that are spouting anti-American hatred to the people. DO YOUR JOB, ACT!!! Don't pretend to know what is going on and how the country works, you have no clue.
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DO YOUR JOB, ACT!!! Don't pretend to know what is going on and how the country works, you have no clue.
How are they different from the people on this board? After all, as far as I know no one on here has a job as an expert in "how America works".
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How are they different from the people on this board? After all, as far as I know no one on here has a job as an expert in "how America works".
How are they different? I don't believe that millions of people go to the theater to hear me speak. You're right, no one is an expert on how America works, but our credentials are far more advanced than most of the Hollywood celebs that think they know what is right for the country.
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Well, getting back to what the article was saying. I agree. Especially with HOllywood continually trying to demonize America. The Michael Moore's and Susan Sarandon's and the like. They are paid to do a job, and that job is act. I have no interest in what an un-educated actor has to say on the matters of the United States. The truth of the matter is, my 8th graders have more of an education than do all the celebrities that are spouting anti-American hatred to the people. DO YOUR JOB, ACT!!! Don't pretend to know what is going on and how the country works, you have no clue.
"Jesus Christ was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate a Governor."---phrase coined by Susan Sarandon and many other Hollywood Liberals.

Did we ever decipher that phrase and its meaning???

Liberals on these boards always ask where we conservatives get the idea that Obama is looked at as a Messiah. And I point each and everyone of them to that phrase above as just 1 example of it.
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"Jesus Christ was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate a Governor."---phrase coined by Susan Sarandon and many other Hollywood Liberals.

Did we ever decipher that phrase and its meaning???

Liberals on these boards always ask where we conservatives get the idea that Obama is looked at as a Messiah. And I point each and everyone of them to that phrase above as just 1 example of it.
Don't waste your time. The Libs on here probably see nothing wrong with what Sarandon and Moore and Cruise and such are doing in Hollywood. They're just drones.
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Usually, it seems that when people speak of "Hollywood's hatred of America," that's code for "the people in Hollywood aren't neocons."

Differences of opinion on what's best for America seems to be an alien concept to many neocons. They seem to believe that their way is the only one that's good for this country. Go figure.

As such, those neocons deserve as much respect for their opinions as they give others who disagree, i.e., none.

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