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Old 01-10-2009, 07:49 AM
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Fantastic piece in Breitbart's new effort 'Big Hollywood' by Bill Whittle here. It's long, and the more you disagree, the more you need to read it all.

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And for those who feel that such a once-noble America is dead and gone, let’s talk about the last time we heard about “Imperialism” and “a war for oil.” In 1991, after destroying the army that Saddam Hussein sent into Kuwait to steal, rape and murder, the United States sat alone and unchallenged on top of the richest oil field on the planet. What did it do? It put out the fires and went home.

Unlike today’s screenwriters who credit themselves as intellectual and creative giants, some of us remain humble enough to not only read history, but to actually understand it on some fundamental level. And those of us who actually know people in the military, who research weapons and tactics, supply and strategy, can tell you that a war for oil consists of placing an armored cordon around the remote oil fields, providing overwhelming air cover for armed convoys direct to port facilities, and then shipment via US tankers escorted by naval assets until out of the region.

None of this is happening, of course. What has happened is that we have spent 4000 and more lives building schools and hospitals and protecting a people against fellow Muslims who show day in and day out that they will kill as many children as they need to in order to terrorize their own people into submission.

That story, apparently, holds no interest for today’s Hollywood.
I can't chop this one up into money quotes. Read it all. And when you find yourself thinking 'Hey, that's not what they taught me in college', well, there's an explaination for that too.
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Of course the article fails to mention that we killed by Bush's account at least 35,000 innocent people in the first weeks of the war.

The article also fails to mention that it was us that destroyed all those schools, bridges , roads, hospitals and infrastructure in Iraq.

You can spin a thing anyway you want I guess .

But there is good news God keeps track and he knows how many people the US murdered in Iraq.
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Unlike today’s screenwriters who credit themselves as intellectual and creative giants, some of us remain humble enough to not only read history, but to actually understand it on some fundamental level.
Why would anyone bother to read past that statement. It tells you all you need to know about the author and his bias.

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Fantastic piece in Breitbart's new effort 'Big Hollywood' by Bill Whittle here. It's long, and the more you disagree, the more you need to read it all.



I can't chop this one up into money quotes. Read it all. And when you find yourself thinking 'Hey, that's not what they taught me in college', well, there's an explaination for that too.
Wow..... for someone who claims to know history, they seem to leave out a huge amount of facts.
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It's a very well-written piece, but it has some things backwards, I think.

There's a certain amount of value in trumpeting and parading our successes. But there's more practical value in a frank appraisal of our weaknesses, if only because knowing that they're there makes them harder to exploit.
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Of course the article fails to mention that we killed by Bush's account at least 35,000 innocent people in the first weeks of the war.

The article also fails to mention that it was us that destroyed all those schools, bridges , roads, hospitals and infrastructure in Iraq.

You can spin a thing anyway you want I guess .

But there is good news God keeps track and he knows how many people the US murdered in Iraq.
Um, that's war. War is not a video game where you can shoot the bad guy without killing innocent people. Had we not killed civilians we would not have won WWII.
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Um, that's war. War is not a video game where you can shoot the bad guy without killing innocent people. Had we not killed civilians we would not have won WWII.
Don't bother... wvpeach doesn't understand anything about what it takes to create freedom, or for that matter fighting to protect anything that is important to you and America.
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Fantastic piece in Breitbart's new effort 'Big Hollywood' by Bill Whittle here. It's long, and the more you disagree, the more you need to read it all.



I can't chop this one up into money quotes. Read it all. And when you find yourself thinking 'Hey, that's not what they taught me in college', well, there's an explaination for that too.


This never was about oil. That is correct, and libs who say otherwise don't understand the situation properly. What it was about was geopolitical strategy. About gaining a foothold, and a base of power right in the center of a giant problem area. Bush and his friends thought that by putting a large amount of troops in Iraq, it would strengthen our position in the middle east, because we would be able to rapidly respond to any threat. The problem was that the rebuilding after the war was far more difficult than we thought it would be, and it actually strengthened Iran's position. And even if it didn't drastically weaken our position, it certainly didn't make it stronger to justify spending a few trillion dollars and losing thousands of lives.
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Don't bother... wvpeach doesn't understand anything about what it takes to create freedom, or for that matter fighting to protect anything that is important to you and America.


We don't care about freedom. Give me a break. We cared about our own interests, and Bush thought this war would further those interests.
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What interests? Oil? Camon, can you really be that overwhelmingly retarded? If the war was for oil then we would care less about rebuilding the country and installing a democratically elected government. We would want a dictatorship that appeased american interests and not Iraqi interests. As of right now, they have written up an agreement to get us out of Iraq, and they have denied several american 0il contractors and oil companies work in Iraq. This does not seem like a very sucessful war for oil if you ask me. If the war was about oil, it would have been a much easier sell to the american people invade, say, Saudi Arabia. They have a lot more oil, and a lot more terrorists also. Why have we not invaded Mexico.. There is a possibly sell there for a war also. If Mexico can not control its boarder, Bush could have possibly sold us on an invasion there. There is lots of oil there to be had as well. Why not mention the other 10-15 countries where vast oil reserves are located that we could easily invade right now. It would make no sense at all to invade Iraq simply for oil.
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