"If imagery is used, then it’s not literal. For example, what “syntax” would make you believe that Noah got two of every creature on earth onto one boat? These stories are just that – stories. The point is to learn something, not to take it at face value. "

Supposedly, the Arc has been found.... Do I think Noah got 2 of every animal(except the dragon and unicorn) and put them on a boat? No... Do I think that he predicted a flood or was "told" of one, built a ship and gathered as many of his farm animals and family on it when the rains started? Yes....


Of course, I am NOT saying to take such things literally... I am saying that You and I do not and usually cannot understand the imagery used in such tomes... Take Jericho for instance...

Do I think God brought down the walls? Of course not... Do I think that the walls fell due to siege warfare? Yes!

We have to understand that the words used to describe such instances have no frame of reference for modern people.... The average grunt outside of the walls of Jericho had no knowledge of engineering and did not understand the sappers undermined the walls... So to the grunt, God brought down the walls.... and that is how the story grows....

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I do not - it was written by men and "other" writings were excluded from the bible (by men) because they didn't fit the teachings of the day - even Mary's writings were excluded.

Men make mistakes or tell stories or fables to tell a lesson - not meant to be taken literally.

However, you can prove the existence of Jesus and Peter by just following the Pope lineage but you can't prove their "godliness" - that is based on faith.

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Actually there is nothing overwhleming about the archaeological evidence.

Evolution states that all life is descended from a common ancestor. This view of history would result in a fossil record that is teaming with transitional forms over the vast ages required by evolution. The fact is that the fossil evidence is completely devoid of transitional forms.

When I say no, what I am referrign to is the idea that we all came from a common mass of ooze that somehow sprang life from it that evolved into all the different species over millions of years.

If it were accurate, you would see many, many transitional species alive today, and many transitional fossils. You would see fish with half-grown arms. You would see goats with the remnants of gills. There are some strange animals out there, some animals that for instance go in the water and on land, but they have fully formed features.

What I can definitely state is that I don't see any transitional beings around me that have the beginnings of some "helpful" defect that makes them more apt to survive...

And then how do you get the slime ooze to jump to life? No one has been able to figure that out.

There is something to natural selection, there is something to species adapting, but I just don't buy the whole thing.

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"Actually there is nothing overwhleming about the archaeological evidence"

there is no evidence for creationism at all, in fact, there is more evidence that there is no God (childhood cancer for instance) if you're believing things based on how much evidence there is rather than faith.

"Actually there is nothing overwhleming about the archaeological evidence.

Evolution states that all life is descended from a common ancestor. This view of history would result in a fossil record that is teaming with transitional forms over the vast ages required by evolution. The fact is that the fossil evidence is completely devoid of transitional forms. "

This is correct... What my stance is that there is no such thing as a transitional form.. only benevolent and detrimental mutations... The detrimental mutations end up destroying the lifeform, the benevolent mutation allows the lifeform to more suitably adapt to it's environment....

What is overlooked in what Merlin writes is that this mutation happens in a relatively few generations and often is undocumentable as it has to do with skin color or behavior...

However, Merlin is entirely correct. Evolution does not adequately explain the march of life on Earth... It is, however, the most "fleshed out" theory.. and is entirely more credible than a Chalton Heston look-alike in the sky manipulating life....

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I.e., that there are benevolent mutations, but only benevolent mutations that result in a fully completed set of functional arms growing from a fish for instance? Can you explain how that works? I thought the whole idea is that a lot of these little mutations favored the animals and over millions of years, natural selection emphasized those traits...

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Keep going, Sinanju. Where did the bacteria come from?

Do you have a soul? If not, why are you superior to a blade of grass? That is, if we all came from the same bacteria.

Debating the origin of the species must always come down to a debate regarding the existence of God. I do wonder why atheists feel the need to debate this though. Many people believe in the existence of God without believing in the Bible.

Yes, actually, it is too much of a stretch to say that space born bacteria brought life to earth and it has evolved to what we see outside our windows today.

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The theory has been floated here a couple of times... I felt it would be a good subject for discourse....

What I am refering to is the theory that life on Earth sprang from a single organism.

This is correct. Recently, bacteria has been discovered that is from another world. This bacteria is unlike anything we have here in many aspects. It not only can withstand extremely high temperature ranges... It THRIVES in all of them. It does not respirate oxygen.... It actually breathes lead... It is found in the most inhospitable places on our planet... including deep sea volcanic vents and the steam vents in Yosemite....

It is THOUGHT that this bacteria arrived on our planet from a pre-prehistoric metoer strike. It is THOUGHT that this bacteria evolved to match the different and changing atmospheres of Earth... eventually thriving and leading to the lifeforms we have today....


NOW, a religious person could say that God SENT the bacteria here.... An evolution theorist could claim this existence of this bacteria proves their assertions...

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