Originally Posted by JP5";p=&quot

Yeah, I noticed that. I met a German woman the other day and she actually singled out the Turkish people in her country as being a huge problem. Germany allowed them in as "guest workers" 4 decades ago.....when they needed the cheap labor and the Turks needed the work. The Turks helped Germany to rebuild. Now that Germany has high unemployment, they are blaming the Turkish population for their problems. This is a problem with "guest workers." The entire discussion is not much different that our own issue with immigrants who have come illegally and stayed. At least the Turks came legally into Germany. But their wanting to kick them out now....after they've been in Germany for decades would be like our wanting to kick Mexicans who have been here for decades out.

Recognizing these problems does not make someone racist. But it does mean they have no business calling the U.S. racist unless they are willing to consider themselves racist as well.

Originally Posted by FVT";p=&quot

I agree with you. the statement is very true. i just looked up the information on turkish history in my anthro book.

"Turkish people migrated to Germany in substantial numbers in the 1960s and 1970s as "guest workers" to fill the jobs in German factories. German leaders expected them to work, save money, and return to Turkey. Most stayed and their children are now growing up in Germany, speaking German and having only a distant relationship with Turkey. Many incidents of violence between so called Neo-Nazis and Turkish people have occured including the murder of five Turkish youths in Solingen in 1993"

Miller, Barbara Cultural Anthropology 3rd edition, pg 348.


But yeah its sad that the efforts of the Turks have gone unnoticed. Lets be frank, afterall, they (Turks) did contribute heavily to rebuilding Germany after World War II. Now Germany has a high power status shouldn't mean kick all the Turks out. I am all for immigration as long as the arriving group (MUST BE LEGAL) can contribute positively to the productivity of the country.

But yeah your posts is a well-thought out post

Originally Posted by stekim";p=&quot

Source please. Or is this yet another "fact" that you simply made up?

Originally Posted by JP5";p=&quot

Actually, I suspect he's a kid whose Mom still tucks him in at night.

Originally Posted by audrasun";p=&quot

This is exactly the feeling I get too. though I think he's one of those 19-year old kids who's mom still tucks him in. What's the french word for "sponge"?




So, does board policy only apply to some posters then?

Originally Posted by Captain-Rolex";p=&quot

Give me a break. I just say the truth as it is and that has always been a reason for prosecution. Even Jesus was crusified because of what he said.

Anyways, American Christians are just horrible people. They are not real Christians as Jesus intended. If you wanna see real Christians come to Europe. We've got people that go to far away lands to help poor people. What do American Christians do? They just sing stupid songs, curse at people that are different, and that's that.