NO. IT WAS NOT. In your quest to find anti-semitism in every turn of phrase you simply ignore the actual reality of the choice of words. Americans who move to Israel and particularly those who move into West Bank settlements do so out of religious convictions not out of economic necessity or to escape political discrimination. Yes, I framed the reality of the situation. There are websites dedicated to encouraging and assisting American Jews to move to Israel. They use the terms Judea and Samaria to mean the W.Bank. Are you honestly trying to argue that the people who choose to move to Israel from the U.S. are in the same economic stratum as the average Palestinian??

60% of Palestinians are below the poverty line. G.D.P in 2002 per capita $800.


http://www.appliedlanguage.com/count....economy.shtml


Economy overview Real per capita GDP for the West Bank and Gaza Strip (WBGS) declined by about one-third between 1992 and 1996 due to the combined effect of falling aggregate incomes and rapid population growth. The downturn in economic activity was largely the result of Israeli closure policies - the imposition of border closures in response to security incidents in Israel - which disrupted labor and commodity market relationships between Israel and the WBGS. The most serious social effect of this downturn was rising unemployment...


It must be very debilitating to imagine there is anti-semitism behind every turn of phrase.

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That reminds me of horizontal oil drilling for some reason.

I'm not 100% sure that this is legal as far as international law is concerned. Of course not a whole lot that Israel does is.

And this is Israel's Fault?
Or the Squandered Aid and Palestinian Started Intifada's Fault in 2000? DUH!

Have we not been through this?!!!
Did you not only NOT respond to this but also Ignore it and continue Slander rather than sanity just a few pages back?!!!

Why is there no expectation that anyone in the arab world would or should help with the agonizing poverty Palestinians live in? There is money for weapons and martyrs - money for propaganda - but no money for infrastructure - jobs - industries - schools - hospitals.

I think there has to be a two state solution because a one state solution will result in massacres. We may want to close out eyes and wish divisions away but Bosnia showed what can happen. That said - I also believe both jordan (originally the Palestinian state of Transjordan, but taken over by the Hashemites as rulers, and the original owner of the west bank) and Egypt (original owner of Gaza) should also be involved and making some sort of sacrifice of land. The west bank and gaza are too disconnected and too confined to be viable in the long term. Perhaps part of the Sinai could be deeded over to the Palestinians.

Finally, I believe wholeheartedly that any and all illegal settlements should be handed over - with all improvements - to palestinians.

As for the rich new york jews - that might be a source of immigration. But riots in yemen have destroyed Jewish homes and businesses. These people are every bit as poor as Palestinians - and Israel will take them in. Not arm them and put them in DP camps - take them in. There has been a staggering increase in anti-semitic attacks in many parts of the world - much of it ignored. These are the attacks that create immigration to Israel for obvious reasons.

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Wow, so you want other countries to give up land for the palestinians? Wait Wait!! You might want to make sure those countries don't claim any of the land that borders gaza as holy land before giving it away.

I wouldn't be surprised if England, always and still a Christian nation, deliberately installed Israel in that specific location, hoping to ignite war between Jews and Muslims. It would be great if Jews and Muslims became allies, turning the Christian strategy on its head.

One of the things I always liked about the Jewish community in Brookline, Ma, was the way people took care of ea other. My Libyan boyfriend and his brothers arrived and were welcomed with a instant network of support and assistance. The Jewish community takes care of its own and it is a very good thing.

But I believe it is a fool"s game to fixate on the number of N.African Jews that have been displaced and use that as a justification for everything that occurs in the occupied territories. Individuals are not interested in your statistics concerning demographic shifts. And all conflicts comprise of individuals looking out for their own interests.

If you think that Syria or Jordan or Lebanon can add, yet more refugees to their already overburdened refugee population , then you are living a fantasy. This thread was supposed to be about solutions.

If you are only capable of assigning blame to one party, you can never be part of a solution.

Are you married? Speaking for myself, I would not have survived even one year of marriage if I assumed I was blameless in every fight and ever eager to assign FAULT. There is ALWAYS another point of view. You cannot have depth perception with one eye closed. See Brownowski's quote below.

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-Brownowski

perhaps beletesri you could provide the figures for how much aid the pals get, from everyone in the entire world, and we'll compare it to the amount little 'ol israel gets from just the u.s. ~ care to do that?



BTW that's more than "a phrase and a link"

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EDUCATION, n.
That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding. ~ A. Bierce

good analogy ~ 'cepting they also get the land.

since the occupation is illegial it cannot be...legal

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EDUCATION, n.
That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding. ~ A. Bierce

i've read a number of reasons, but never "hoping to ignite war between Jews and Muslims" in reality the brits made a number of promises, and this [Balfour Declaration]was one of them.

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EDUCATION, n.
That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding. ~ A. Bierce