But I said exactly what SS has said, tho hardly as well, to the hard left crowd on b-net, repeatedly, when we went to war.

The issue wasn't that Saddam had WMDs, but that he had flouted the inspection process and we simply had no idea what he had or what he might do with it.

So, I can't speak for anyone else, but my tune hasn't changed.

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Job 13:5 (New International Version)
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.

"I don't care about the WMD's. IMO the real goal all along was to establish a Democracy in the middle east. "

plenty of other countries have "flouted the inspection process" far more than saddam, and this was used for an excuse to get the oil.

in saying that i think our governments had a 'right' to go in i.e thats what treatys are there for, i.e Versilles and if they arn't enforce...well we all know our history. So i think they had a 'right' to go in, but it was only used as a moral excuse, otherwise we would have done it a/ a lot sooner b/ to many other countries around the globe.

I was thinking the same thing. I wasn’t around posting way back when so I’m not sure about those on this board. But I remember at least in San Francisco that all those who were in favor of the war made the WMD’s the #1 issue.

Shoot the building where I’m attending college is in the UN plaza. When there were huge anti war protest marching through the UN Plaza we had the Pro Bush people down there. Nobody ever brought up democracy in Iraq. It was all about keeping Saddam from using his biological weapons against us.

Who knows…maybe it was different all around the U.S. But on my 2 hour commute on BART into the city and from my experience with the war protests down market street and through UN Plaza, I didn’t get the impression at all that this war would be for the people of Iraq. Not at all… I certainly didn’t get that impression from Bush or Powell when they addressed the nation and the UN.

This place wasn't even around when many thought there was a likelihood of finding stockpiles. Don't know what your point is.

..lying, imbecile...

I am SOOOO glad three of my friends paid with their lives for this...their parents are THRILLED....

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The last time this country mixed politics with religion, people got burned at the stake.

The definition of lie from dictionary.com:

'A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.'

I assume you refer to Bush. How about backing up your claim that there was a lie told.

Were they drafted?

I am so sick of hearing this line; this implication...no one forced them to join. When you join the military, you are assuming a risk, regardless of your motivation. The majority of the American People and their elected representatives felt that Saddam posed a risk. That is why those men were sent. That is why they died.

If they were drafted, I would be angry too. But they were not. It is like the wife of a Police Officer hating the city government because her husband got shot by a robber...it happens. Thats part of the risk of being a police officer. That is not the City Government's fault. It's not the police chief's fault. It's not the fault of the people that elected the city government.

If they joined the Military for financial reasons, that is still the same thing. They chose to gamble. They were not conscripted.

If you people are going to call him a liar, it is reasonable to ask you what it is he lied about. Percieved implications do not = lies.

Righto. You JOINED the Army. They didn't force you in. Guess what? The Army shoots at people and gets shot at. You might get hit. You may even go to exotic lands to get shot at. If you did not now that I really have little else to say.

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Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

Yes, being a supporter for the war in Iraq, I was surprised when we did not find any WMD. It could be in another country, but fact is that we don't know. We just have to keep going and doing what we think is right. It was a mistake to so quickly say that there so many WMDs there. This just goes to show that people are human and can make mistakes. In the future we must still try our best to do what we believe is right.
the main point is:
The World is better off without Saddam and his regime.