America really doesn't know what terrorism is, you haven't experianced it. You don't know what it's like to live in a country under seige of terrorism. You have 9/11 and the TV tell you to be afraid/shocked/said - and then you think you know what it's like.

You have these "New Yorker Vets" who give the old "yup..i was there" - there for what? one incident? Not to mention N.Y has the population of some countries! I mean people who live on the east coast come out with being under seige, or afraid for their safety etc. I mean christ people - one day, thats it, you had one dayfor one incident, and suddenly america is a country under seige. 9/11 shouldn't have affected america anymore than if there a large pile-up on the motorway, yet people seem to imagine that it has affected them....televison has a lot to answer for.

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I am a stone, I do not move. I take my time, I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. I do not tremble, I have no fear.

If 3,000 people died in a large pile-up on the freeway, that would affect me, too. I'm sure you can give me numerous instances of terrorists killing that many people in a single strike.

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

a/numbers doesn't matter - it would be the same if 6,000 died, it's just a numbers game. Numbers in a news report = nothing. There being sufficaint numbers dying over time so you can be affected by it personally is a completly different story.

b/295,629,032 - population of america. 1.7 mill - population of n.ireland.

think 9/11 = number that died in the troubles, so divide the population by 3,000 to find out how many people of the population for every dead person.

america = 98543 N.Ireland = 566

so 98543/566 = 174. So N.Ireland is X 174 worse than 9/11.
we arn't talking, double as bad, or triple as bad but one hundred and seventy four times worse.

9/11 was a drop in the ocean. You can further multiply that factor by it being over 30 years, and the 'climate' created by it.

it's a even more sever factor if you compare the population of belfast to NY

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I am a stone, I do not move. I take my time, I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. I do not tremble, I have no fear.

Now, mouse. You seem to be saying that it has to equal a certain percentage of the population to be bad. I've never said. "Oh, well, only that many died? No big deal." I realize that daily terrorism is almost always worse than a single incident regardless of the numbers. Just don't downplay what happened on 9/11. I cried the day of the Oklahoma city bombing (16. I even cried when Bonfire fell (12) and that wasn't terrorists.

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

you have that happening almost daily, and i'll guarantee you'll stop crying after a while. in belfast people are well known for a sick sence of humour, i.e we can laught at bombings/ tusnamis or whatever, because people had to 'deal' with death- and humour is one of those things.

i do belittle the attack, becaue it's about mentality...not the actual damage caused. i.e you get to a stage where the cops say theres a suspect device in the hotel your in...you just stay in the bar because you've gotten to the stage where 'scares' dont affect you anymore - unless you REALLY think its a bomb that time, then you high tail it!

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I am a stone, I do not move. I take my time, I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. I do not tremble, I have no fear.

No we'll start killing more terrorists and stop complaining about the president
sounds like a sure-fired way of getting killed.

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I understand what you're saying, mouse. I can understand becoming complacent. But, that's exactly the wrong thing to do. We can never become complacent.

And, to me it IS the actual damage caused.

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

not complacient, accepting it as part of life.

no the damage means nothing, it's the climate it creates. and the american news has put that climate out more than it is.

sic - i can agree with that, lets kill them, but without stepping on toes.

lol, probally but if theres lots of scares, you do have good odds in your favour.

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I am a stone, I do not move. I take my time, I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. I do not tremble, I have no fear.

also, comparing belfast - NY.

277,000 - 8,000,000
92 2666

2666/92 = X92

So nearly 250,000 ppl would have needed to die in 9/11 for it to be anywhere near similar. and thats not even including the time/social factors.

so in conclusion, whats america complaining about? some of you lot need a good slap and be told to wise up.

you are also going on about the need for t never to happen again...so let it? whats 3.00 people? nothing! more people die from ingrown toenails.

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I am a stone, I do not move. I take my time, I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. I do not tremble, I have no fear.

I cannot believe how stupid myopicmouse is.

3000 people is alot of people, I don't care what country you live in. The media definitely was not hyping the attack, it was unparalleled.

So what if more people die from ingrown nails, drowning in bathtubs, or falling off ladders. A terrorist attack is not an everyday occurance in the U.S., it deserves extra media attention.