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Old 03-16-2005, 07:17 AM
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Default Why Israel gets what it gets......

Just last year Israel demanded 12 billion US dollars from the US federal government. That’s just a fraction of what they have already gotten and is just a fraction of the huge amount of money that the US looses by supporting the so called Hebrew State.

Israel is the 16th richest nation in the world, with a population of only 6 million. Yet receives most of the US foreign aide. How come? Because it’s a democracy? Well….why don’t we give it to India? They are a democracy as well…..and if I might ad….a true democracy…not some fascist racist state…where the Jew has by definition the most rights……and most important of all. India needs the money much more. Or Rwanda. They could use the money. But I guess the poor black people of Rwanda don’t have such a fancy and powerful lobby like the Zionists do. So the poor black people receive a few lousy dollars…while Israel takes the large billion dollars chunk. O did I mention the Zionist lobby? O, silly me…..I shouldn’t have said that. We all know there is no thing like a Zionist Lobby. And the AIPAC is just a big hoax. Silly me.

So what’s the deal? Well…..here’s the deal. If the biggest lobby in the world (the Zionist AIPAC) wants a certain amount of dollars…they are going to receive it. No matter what. As a politician with common sense, just be so bold as to object the fact that Israel receives the most…and you will find yourself in all the papers as THE Jew hater in US politics. Because obviously….you hate Jews if you don’t back Israel like some blind brainless fool.

Because we all know…the Israelis need the money more than….let’s say…the poor people of Rwanda. Look at some of the pictures from Israel. The poor guys really have “nothing.” Let’s help them more. They are practically starving there. Just look at the horrible heartbreaking pictures from Israel. Just look……..oh it’s so sad. Definitely much worse than all African suffering combined.

http://www.chessbase.com/images2/2004/wccc01.jpg

http://school.ort.spb.ru/library/torah/ir/tel_aviv.jpg

http://www.hayattours.com/images/P20telavivbeach.jpg

And what does Israel do to show its gratitude?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/mo...lscandals.html

They sell US (Patriot) missile technology to China.
They attack US bases in Egypt and try to blame it on the Egyptians, to unleash a war.
They attack US navy vessels and try to blame it on the Egyptians.
They hire a spy to collect US info and sell it to the Russians….and when it is discovered…they even refuse to trial the guy.
They make the US the most hated state in the Middle East.



Let’s toss in some extras in this years multibillion gift to Israel. They sure deserved it.
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But I would find it hard to really disagree with your position here.

I hate to spoil your morning, but for a really entertaining read, pull up some articles on the Cranston Amendment.

A lady friend of mine is a VP with a large bank. I asked her what I'd have to do to get a deal like that (they loan me money, but pay me interest on the funds which haven't been disbursed). She told me I'd need a pistol and a note to the teller.
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..Do they have anything worth our while?
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We support Israel because it is the only democratc, capialistic, first world country in the middle east.

Second, the US and Israel have been best friends since Truman was around. Both countries have no had a better ally.

Third, Israel is the quentisential (can't spell) terrorist fighter. Israel, moreso than any other country, has been fighting terrorism like crazy since the beginning of the 20th century. It would be hypoctrical to support Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (which is shameful in itself) and not Israel.

Fourth, statistics show that the aid America gives to other countries does not in fact work. Most of this money from the last 50 years has no actually helped countries grow in any realistic terms. We give money to Israel to support their army, which has been the only thing preventing them from utter distruction.

Fifth, Israel is a caucasian country in an Arab worodl, it wouldnt make sense NOT to aid them, seeing as how we have aided every other European country over so many years.
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Fifth, Israel is a caucasian country in an Arab worodl, it wouldnt make sense NOT to aid them, seeing as how we have aided every other European country over so many years.
Boy, you sound like a VERY right wing (and perhaps) racist Jewish Israeli.

Am I (partly) right?

In fact many of the Jews in Israel are of the same race as the Arabs, some are even black! But I guess those do not count? I have worked in Israel and indeed, the white Jews find themselves the best version around, treating the black and Arab Jews like crap.

You just showed your true colour.
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Fifth, Israel is a caucasian country in an Arab worodl, it wouldnt make sense NOT to aid them, seeing as how we have aided every other European country over so many years.
Boy, you sound like a VERY right wing (and perhaps) racist Jewish Israeli.

Am I (partly) right?

In fact many of the Jews in Israel are of the same race as the Arabs, some are even black! But I guess those do not count? I have worked in Israel and indeed, the white Jews find themselves the best version around, treating the black and Arab Jews like crap.

You just showed your true colour.
slapping RACIST on everyone when they don't advocated getting ass raped by israel for money hardly strengthens your arguement.
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myopicmouse,

Just take a look at the pics. And answer me why the 16th richest nation in the world receives almost ALL of US foreign aid? And what do they in return? They make a diplomatic mess for the US to clean up, destroy American Arab relations, destroy American economic aspirations, spy on the US (AIPAC scandal and lots more, even involving Israeli citizens Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle)sell US missile technology to China and gun down American soldiers (USS Liberty "incident").

Tanx guys.
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Where did you get the 16th richest country figure? And what does 16th richest country mean? GDP? GDP per capita? Sure Israel is a prosperous country, but 16th richest? I doubt it.

There is a very valid argument to make about US funding of Israel, unfortunately the article sounds too much like anti-Israel propaganda to make that point. Using phrases like "the Jew" and dogmatically repeating the word Zionist only gives off one image.

BTW; nice pics of the Tel Aviv skyline. I could probably find similar pics for Beirut if I looked hard enough.
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:53 AM
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Just to let you see things in perspective. An average Israeli had an income of 17500 USD a year. A citizen in Rwanda only had an average income of 250 USD a year!!!!!!

http://www.dbresearch.com/servlet/re...WEB?rwkey=u870

Yet it is Israel that gets the most of US foreign aide! Let's make sure the malls in Tel Aviv stay filled with people and the latest high-tech mobile phones. We don't want those Israelis wearing any B-brands. Only the best for Israel.

People starving in Rwanda? They can wait, our number one priority is keeping those Israelis in Levi's Jeans and Nike sneakers.
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