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Old 04-22-2004, 06:58 AM
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Default Fascism = Capitalism?

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism, because it
is a merger of state and corporate power." ~ Benito Mussolini


Therefore: Fascism = Corporatism


Capitalism -
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Corporative -

Of, relating to, or associated with a corporation.
Of or relating to a government or political system in which the principal economic functions, such as banking, industry, labor, and government, are organized as corporate entities.

Corporatism = Capitalism

Fascism = Capitalism
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Old 04-22-2004, 07:34 AM
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Default Huh?

As usual, there are so many things wrong with your argument, I don't know where to start. You should really look into taking a course in logic. Let's start with your first premise, "Fascism = Corporatism"

Fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Corporatism: Of or relating to a government or political system in which the principal economic functions, such as banking, industry, labor, and government, are organized as corporate entities.

Now, please explain why these two things are the same, and try to refrain from the argument, "because Mussolini told me so"
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Old 04-22-2004, 04:14 PM
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Default How bout this one chief

How bout this one:

Dumassism: The state of being utterly unaware that one's proferred theory is laughably stupid and inane. Typically happens when socialists are talking about economics, government, or public policy, or the effective use of public resources. See inefficiency, Adam Smith, and Stalin's corpse.
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Old 04-22-2004, 07:06 PM
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Default Capitalism=Facism???

Nope. Sorry. Wrong.

Mussolini had a valid point, and it is hard in today's Modern America to ignore the direct connections between Corporate America and those that "govern" how those corporations operate as being anyhting but a huge conflict of interest.

I have been a proponent for a long time of a total ban on soft money donations by ALL special interest groups, be they corporations, unions, or PAC's. The ONLY entities that should be permitted to donate money to politicians are private citizens. Corporations/Unions are not people, do not have the right to vote, and therefore should be disallowed from giving money to or hosting fund-raisers for elected officials.

Until such time as politicians can wean themselves from the ever-filling trough of soft money the entire system will be replete with conflicts of interest, undue influence, and out and out bribery...

Think they'll do it?


Nah, neither did I...
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Old 04-23-2004, 07:31 AM
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Default noooo......

surely fascism is the control of state by one person and of one 'race'... as in ... say hitler believed in the 'blonde hair, blue eyes' thing...

And capitilism is the structure of a community, allowing all 'races'..with a king and a queen and lords etc... this is what ive been told.
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Old 04-26-2004, 05:47 AM
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Default Guerera, you are an idjit

Guerera, your argument is fundamentally flawed. The Spanish Civil War is a perfect example of the 20th centuries four main political modes of thought.
On one side was the Left (the Republicans), which was divided into socialists (moderate democratic socialists) and communists (extreme undemocratic socialists). On the other side was the Right (the Nationalists), which were divided into moderate democratic capitalists (and pro-church) and the facists (extreme undemocratic capitalists). The main problems of the modern world have been caused by the extreme non-democrats of either stripe whenever they have seized control from the moderates (with the exception of WWI, which was an act of collective stupidity).

Facism = Corporatism, but Corporatism is only one version of capitalism, just as Stalinism/Maoism = Communism, but Communism is only one version of socialism. Note that I don't talk about small-c communism, which is a nice theory but completely unrealistic.
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communists (extreme undemocratic socialists)
If everyone has a equal say of course its not democratic, there would be no leader. I think communism is extreme socialism crossed with anarchy. I know we've has Stalin and Lennon etc. But in my perfect communist every person would vote on every change of law or adjustment in pay etc.

Anyway how did the communist party get voted out of Poland?
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