You are correct. I dont care about random unsupported conspiracy theories.

You will find most people share that opinion.

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[quote="Sadistic-Savior";p="141817"]No, those who dont work will recieve nothing and those who work hard will recieve special rewards.

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So people ARE forced to work then, right?

Who determines what their job is? Who determines if they are working as hard as the next guy?

In a capitalist society, wages determine this. If you work harder, you will likely advance faster. How is this determined in a commie society?

Ok...how about candidates that want to bring back private land ownership. Could the masses vote for them?

So all 250,000 people in the US could get equal advertisement? Kind of expensive dont you think?

And if they all dont get wide exposure, is that really fair? Shouldnt ALL ideas get wide exposure to make sure that people can pick the best choice?

Who gets to define what "euqal" is in this context?

But I thought you said everyone would be equal...wouldnt that mean equal wages as well?

And you didnt answer my question...who determines what labor is worth?

So there is some kind of magical fearie that determines how hard one person is laboring as opposed to another?

Everyone has a different opinion on what constitutes hard labor...therefore you will need someone or something to determine the level of labor. This is an example of the minutia you people refuse to answer, and why no one takes you seriously. This is an example of the "we'll figure it out later" theory of communism.

So if I make the claim I am laboring harder than you, thats all it takes for me to get higher wages in your society?

But some people will be doing manual labor, and some people will be doing management. Who determines which job I have to do?

If the workers own everything, it does not necessarily make it fair, because I might be getting less wages than someone else, even though I am working harder.

Your opinion alone determines if the system is fair or not? Oh yeah, thats not totalitarian at all.

Who determines what is necessary?

Oh yeah.. "we'll figure it out later"

If Japan defeated us technologically, why are they still buying our computers? Where is their space shuttle? What little military they have is horribly inferior to our military technology.

China is not the wealthiest...you need to do some research. They have HALF our GDP...despite the fact that they have 5 times our population. The US is the wealthiest nation by a wide margin. - http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp_ppp&int=20 -

What exactly leads you to believe that Japan is more advanced and China is wealthier? Please post your source for this.

So is your answer that you would rather live in the America of 1950 than America today? Why are you afraid to answer that question?

So why is America still so far ahead of both of them? They've both been around longer, right?

Thats a non answer...again, you have no answer for HOW you are going to get anthing done. "We'll figure it out later".

Would it even be an option for them?

I cant imagine why anyone would choose communism either...but it IS an opinion in our society. There are commie parties.

So if the majority of people say that homos dont get human rights, you are ok with that?

Why not? And wouldnt that be up to the majority though, if it is a vote?

I cant read your mind and dont want to put words in your mouth. Thats why I am asking you. I take it you dont have an answer. It's something I am getting used to with your posts.

So how is that any different from what we already have now?

Elected by the electorial college, not by the people.

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Im not a (*)(*)(*)(*) proffessor. I dont know all the answers. Its like God, you cant prove that he's there but you just know he is; I dont have all the answers but someone does. If your so great than get off the computer, leave your mom's house, and get into real politics.

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If you want people to embrace your pet ideology, you will need to find out these answers first. Because the implied answer is always the same; totalitarianism. And you wont find many people that will work towards the goal of stripping themselves of their own rights...

Actually, it's nothing like God. God is a religion; He's supposedly unknowable. Communism is an ideology...a system of doing things. Therefore, it is knowable.

Capitalists can answer every one of these questions. Without exception. Until you can do the same with Communism, you arnt going to have much luck in finding people that will embrace the ideology. Certainly not now that we have already seen what happens when it is attempted.

It is ironic that a communist is comparing his ideology to a religion. I personally would never have done that in my commie days. I hated religion.

Great...find them and post them here. If anyone has the answers to these questions, they are doing a great job of remaining undetected, because I have been debating this stuff for years. So far not a single person has been able to defend coimmunism by answering questions like these.

The only way communists can ever win arguments is if they control the forum itself, and delete arguments they dont like. That says pretty much all that needs to be said about the ideology right there.

Where did I ever imply I wanted to be a politician? The current government is doing pretty much everything I would do anyway. I have no incentive to become a politician.

All I was doing was explaining why I would never support communism, and why others probably would not either. I apologize if I hit a nerve.

Yep. But the vast majority of the time, they vote for the candidate they are pledged to. In any event, no one seems to have a problem with the electoral college enough to try to remove it. The only time it is ever an issue is when their own candidate loses. Even after Bush's first election, I didnt see any big push from the liberals to remove it.

There is a lot of information on the Electoral College on that site, including a detailed list of Pros and Cons.

Not to be sarcastic, but what country is this?