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Old 05-12-2005, 09:30 AM
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Default Why the war on "Terror" will fail

We will loose this war because we are funding our enemies.
Selling Pakistan f-16's
Iraq mustard gas (1980)
Funding Osama against the Russians
and most importantly Tsunami funds!
I am fed up of looking at footage of terrorists carrying m16s and Mp5s with the words MADE IN USA stamped on the side.
The US public seems to forget that south east Asia is filled with TERRORISTS. When america has a major disaster the rest of the world throws big ass party's, they dont send us cash. If they cant swim that is their problem. Seriously why does it seem like our biggest export is weapons and straight cash? When someone starts using the weapons in ways we dont "approve" we send our fellow countrymen to die. This goes far beyond our presidents because it continues through administrations.

And to kick it all off, WE GAVE FRANCE NUKES!!FRANCE! THE MOST PATHETIC GROUP OF UNSHAVED (*)(*)(*)(*) IN THE WORLD. ARE WE RETARDED?????????????? Then after that we give nukes to ISRAEL. YEAH, HEY, THERES A COUNTRY THATS BEEN IN WAR FOR 2,000 YEARS LETS GIVE THEM SOME NUKES. whos bright idea was that????? Now we say to Iran and N. Korea that they cant have any.??! wtf? Who are we to pick favorites?

The US is like a really drunk parent with to many kids that are all running around screaming. So we slap them, and do what ever we can to shut them up so we can go back to vomiting into the toilet not realizing what is going to happen when these dysfunctional, abused, ARMED lunatics get wasted themselves and go on power trips of their own.

is it just me? or has America supplied the rest of the world with what it needs to wipe our arrogant asses right off the map?
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:25 PM
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Wow, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed...
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:42 AM
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I dont remember us ever giving nukes to Isreal. Technically, there is not even any hard proof that Israel has nukes at all...it is something we all assume.

While I always oppose selling non-democracies military equipment, giving them obsolete fighters is hardly the end of the world.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:44 AM
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Default We shouldn't be giving anything to anyone

American taxpayer's money should stay in America. What has the rest of the world done for Americans lately? Nothing.
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Then after that we give nukes to ISRAEL. YEAH, HEY, THERES A COUNTRY THATS BEEN IN WAR FOR 2,000 YEARS LETS GIVE THEM SOME NUKES. whos bright idea was that?????

[quote]HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!! WHO ARE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE HOLY MOTHER LAND OF ISRAEL LIKE THAT!!!! THE REASON WE ARE IN THIS WAR IS BECAUSE OF *edit* CAPITALISTS LIKE YOU WHO ARE TO STUPID TO MAKE AN EDUCATED THEORY SO YOU POINT FINGERS AT THE FIRST PERSON YOU SEE! YOURE AN EMBARASSMENT TO YOUR NATION, YOUR SELF, AND THE ENTIRE WORKING CLASS! ITS PIG-HEADED RED NECKS LIKE YOU THAT GIVE AMERICA A BAD NAME. YOUR NO COMRADE. NEVER HAVE BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE!


The12thMan: There is nothing in this post but personal attacks. I'm tempted to delete it, and invite another moderator to do so. This is exactly the kind of post which have made some of our best debaters leave in disgust.
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Old 05-13-2005, 07:28 PM
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HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!! WHO ARE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE HOLY MOTHER LAND OF ISRAEL LIKE THAT!!!! THE REASON WE ARE IN THIS WAR IS BECAUSE OF *edit* CAPITALISTS LIKE YOU WHO ARE TO STUPID TO MAKE AN EDUCATED THEORY SO YOU POINT FINGERS AT THE FIRST PERSON YOU SEE! YOURE AN EMBARASSMENT TO YOUR NATION, YOUR SELF, AND THE ENTIRE WORKING CLASS! ITS PIG-HEADED RED NECKS LIKE YOU THAT GIVE AMERICA A BAD NAME. YOUR NO COMRADE. NEVER HAVE BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE!



Your comment says you’re an Israeli, your profile says you’re an American Communist, and your name, Schwarzwald, is German. Exactly who are you?

May I ask you my so called Israeli friend; do you live in the “Holy Motherland of Israel”? Oh yeah that’s right, your profile says you live in USA, and are apart of the Young Communist League. What right do you have to make a statement like that?
Your comment is the most pathetic and adolescent statement I have ever read before. What you say is not only completely and undeniable wrong, but idiotic as well. You should be shipped out to Siberia or *edit*, just like your Communist leader Lenin did to the countless amount of “political enemies” of Communism. Take my advice and get a new political outlook, Communism is outdated.
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Default come on Schwarzwald

The whole world knows that Israel is in breach of the non-proliferation treaty, and that they are not called to task in this regard such as other nations (who 'may be thinking about', possibly, planning, sometime in the future, to become in breach - Iran), but you are right to point out the ethical incongruity of fighting a 'war on terror' while helping to arm terrorists.

But please tone it down a notch. No one here needs to be visited with personalised attacks. A good heated debate, yes, with passionately charged language, certainly, but please rejoin the fold on civil terms.
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and most importantly Tsunami funds!
I am fed up of looking at footage of terrorists carrying m16s and Mp5s with the words MADE IN USA stamped on the side.
Why do you have a problem with helping the victims of the recent tsunami? Cheap bastage that I am... even I gave a healthy donation and encouraged others at my company to do the same.

As for MP5's... I've never seen an H&K MP5 with MADE IN USA stamped on the side. They might have MADE IN DEUTSCHLANDthough.

Rather than a drunk parent with too many kids, I think the U.S. is more like a drunk neighbor who won the lottery years ago. His money came too easy and he is inefficient and arrogant in his spending habits. He's also easily duped by those who enjoy making a sucker of him and lightening his pockets. Some posters on this board refer to anyone who does not believe that the U.S. should have its hands in the world's #### as isolationist. For those people, it's a pretty basic chocolate & vanilla, anything that's not bad must be good, you're either with us or against us (I think President W. said something like that) type world.

I agree with some of what you said. But I'm not against helping people in a time of true human suffereing, whether some people help us or not. Pure charity should not be conditional. At the same time, until a few things get straightened out at home, I would not have U.S. soldiers protecting the borders of Iraq while our borders are wide open.


Heydrich4president... everytime I see your handle it cracks me up. I still get the feeling that not too many people here have caught on.
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:15 PM
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I think if you do nothing about terrorism you will never be able to live your life in peace. You do not solve a problem by ignoring it. If we ignored Hitler he would have killed off the entire Jewish population and controlled most of Europe but we fought and I bet that people said that it was a lost cause but they were wrong. I could be wrong but if we ignore it we will never know because it will make terrorism worse.
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Old 05-18-2005, 08:55 AM
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And to kick it all off, WE GAVE FRANCE NUKES!!FRANCE! THE MOST PATHETIC GROUP OF UNSHAVED (*)(*)(*)(*) IN THE WORLD. ARE WE RETARDED??????????????
is it just me? or has America supplied the rest of the world with what it needs to wipe our arrogant asses right off the map?
Are we to take someone seriously whose arguments include "pathetic group of unshaved (*)(*)(*)(*)"? The derogatory remarks and lack on intelligent argument is overwhelming. The many judgmental arguments and lack of true, hard evidence, is absolutely appalling. How does one expect to convince anybody of their political views, if they go about calling America, their home country, "retarded" and "arrogant". In the mindsets of many that is viewed as treason. I would make sure that my arguments were intelligent and less emotional next time I try to post an argument, Heydrich.

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