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Obama Spending Trends Charted
So, would President Obama’s budget plan really increase deficit spending much more than other modern presidents? Well, yeah, to the tune of seven times more, measured as a percentage of economic output, than under President Kennedy over 45 years ago — as you can see in this chart.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/12/...rends-charted/
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Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures

President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious.

The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.
What’s driving Obama’s unprecedented massive deficits? Spending. Riedl details:UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has been now been added.

CLARIFICATION: Of course, this Washington Post graphic does not perfectly delineate budget surpluses and deficits by administration. President Bush took office in January 2001, and therefore played a lead role in crafting the FY 2002-2008 budgets. Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for the FY 2009 budget deficit that overlaps their administrations, before President Obama assumes full budgetary responsibility beginning in FY 2010. Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/


George, Lititz, PA writes:
I reject the two bars that indicate a surplus for 2000 and 2001. This is rewritten history by friends of the Clinton administration. It never happened. The U.S. federal debt went up every year including those two. Those data points are fictitious.
See for yourself” by going here:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm
and here:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
The debt went up each year. There was no $236.2 billion surplus. NEVER HAPPENED.
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The debt went up each year. There was no $236.2 billion surplus. NEVER HAPPENED.
So, the numbers you posted are inaccurate and unreliable?
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So, the numbers you posted are inaccurate and unreliable?
It's the WaPo's chart

They were inaccurate for those two years according to that poster. I did go to the links and the US treasury reports deficits instead of surpluses for those two years

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halving the deficit is not halving the debt.
The debt will grow geometrically even if the deficit were to shrink, which it probably wont.

Obama's numbers are based on YOY growth that was not even sustained during the boom years.
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Obama Spending Trends Charted
So, would President Obama’s budget plan really increase deficit spending much more than other modern presidents? Well, yeah, to the tune of seven times more, measured as a percentage of economic output, than under President Kennedy over 45 years ago — as you can see in this chart.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/05/12/...rends-charted/
looks like Reagan was just a big government farce after all.
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How in the...even if you approve of his policies, how did he rank higher than Thomas Jefferson?!
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looks like Reagan was just a big government farce after all.
There was a cold war on, with a declared winner, and he was hobbled with an opposition congress

Throw stones at Bush 43 who controlled all three houses for a while and still spent like a sailor in bangkok.
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Judging from the chart you are citing as evidence, it looks like you're saying Obama's biggest problem is that he spends money like he's a Republican.
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There was a cold war on, with a declared winner, and he was hobbled with an opposition congress

Throw stones at Bush 43 who controlled all three houses for a while and still spent like a sailor in bangkok.
Imagine what reagan could have spent if he had GWB's congress ?
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