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Here is a video and some text on a speech given by Pres. Reagan before he was president while campainging for Barry Goldwater.

I believe these words hit a tone with all of us, weather your a demorcrat, republican, independant or even someone who has switched parties.

Even if you don't like Reagan, please watch the entire video, I believe it shows what a real leader looks like. Just like the great speeches given by MLK, Lincoln and Kennedy.



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But I have an uncomfortable feeling that this prosperity isn't something on which we can base our hopes for the future. No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income. Today, 37 cents out of every dollar earned in this country is the tax collector's share, and yet our government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more than the government takes in. We haven't balanced our budget 28 out of the last 34 years. We've raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and now our national debt is one and a half times bigger than all the combined debts of all the nations of the world. We have 15 billion dollars in gold in our treasury; we don't own an ounce. Foreign dollar claims are 27.3 billion dollars. And we've just had announced that the dollar of 1939 will now purchase 45 cents in its total value.
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Not too long ago, two friends of mine were talking to a Cuban refugee, a businessman who had escaped from Castro, and in the midst of his story one of my friends turned to the other and said, "We don't know how lucky we are." And the Cuban stopped and said, "How lucky you are? I had someplace to escape to." And in that sentence he told us the entire story. If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth.
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Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy.
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But seriously, what are we doing to those we seek to help? Not too long ago, a judge called me here in Los Angeles. He told me of a young woman who'd come before him for a divorce. She had six children, was pregnant with her seventh. Under his questioning, she revealed her husband was a laborer earning 250 dollars a month. She wanted a divorce to get an 80 dollar raise. She's eligible for 330 dollars a month in the Aid to Dependent Children Program. She got the idea from two women in her neighborhood who'd already done that very thing.
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Now it doesn't require expropriation or confiscation of private property or business to impose socialism on a people. What does it mean whether you hold the deed to the -- or the title to your business or property if the government holds the power of life and death over that business or property? And such machinery already exists. The government can find some charge to bring against any concern it chooses to prosecute. Every businessman has his own tale of harassment. Somewhere a perversion has taken place. Our natural, unalienable rights are now considered to be a dispensation of government, and freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp as it is at this moment.
This quote really make me think about what the government would do to private insurance companies if UHC took place.

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You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin -- just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard 'round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn't die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well it's a simple answer after all.
I believe this speech is the epitomy of what a democratic and capitalist society should remember.
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Here is a video and some text on a speech given by Pres. Reagan before he was president while campainging for Barry Goldwater.

I believe these words hit a tone with all of us, weather your a demorcrat, republican, independant or even someone who has switched parties.

Even if you don't like Reagan, please watch the entire video, I believe it shows what a real leader looks like. Just like the great speeches given by MLK, Lincoln and Kennedy.

YouTube - Reagan - A Time For Choosing









This quote really make me think about what the government would do to private insurance companies if UHC took place.



I believe this speech is the epitomy of what a democratic and capitalist society should remember.
Meh, he was still a bully that spent like a drunken sailor every chance he got and couldn;t align his actions with his words. I do blame him personally for not paying closer attention to the AIDS epidemic.
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Meh, he was still a bully that spent like a drunken sailor every chance he got and couldn;t align his actions with his words. I do blame him personally for not paying closer attention to the AIDS epidemic.
There is no possible way you watched the entire speech.
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There is no possible way you watched the entire speech.
All of it? I didn't watch any of it. The mere sound of that man's voice, the thought of watching him doe his head wagging thing, and the words from the Grecian formula infected brain are enough to make me lose my lunch.

The dude is dead. If there was a hell, I would be sure he was burning in it for the things he did.
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All of it? I didn't watch any of it. The mere sound of that man's voice, the thought of watching him doe his head wagging thing, and the words from the Grecian formula infected brain are enough to make me lose my lunch.

The dude is dead. If there was a hell, I would be sure he was burning in it for the things he did.
you have added nothing to this thread except to complain. your off topic.
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you have added nothing to this thread except to complain. your off topic.
Maybe. I just don't understand how Reagan can run up a huge deficit and people say he was so fiscally conservative nor do I understand why people excuse him selling arms to our enemies.
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The left loves to try to vilify The Greatest American, but they adore Jimmy Carter.
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Really? I think Jimmy Carter's domestic policies were pretty much a disaster. How's that for adoration?
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Another great quote from Reagan:

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself."



Actually, he was a pretty likable guy, but the idea that UHC is somehow at odds with freedom... Kind of irrational.

One needs only to look at the two Nations most like the US in the world, UK and Canada. We have the same root-Laws, and a lot of the same culture and values.

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