http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=The_View - On "The View" today. From one extreme to the other!

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

Sean is a little farther right than I am. A shame Rosie couldn't bear to let him finish a sentence. It might be a little different if she goes on his show though. She's got her Democrat talking points down pat. Every point either one of them made has been done right here on this forum.

Interesting, Cheney, Guiliani, and McCain did nothing, but Condoleeza makes her head explode.

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

Dude, she's pretty cute for a what, 40 year old?

Not Rosie!!! I meant the other woman!!! The main host!!!

Don't worry, dear. NOBODY thought you were talking about Rosie. Maybe you're talking about Joy Behar or Meredith Vieira?

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

But I will NEVER agree with Rosie O'Donnell. Go get her Sean!!!

Wow, I thought they were left wing, but by the way they attacked Sean Hannity like that, it really shows their bias big time.

Rosie's such a hog (I was gonna say camera hog, but I'll let it stand). It'll be interesting to see how the conversation goes on Hannity's turf. He seemed a lot more tame than he usually is on his show. Didn't she have a run-in with Tom Selleck on her show once about gun control? I bet she complimented him first thing, too.

She's proof positive that someone without talent, looks, or brains can become successful. Only in America!

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

Rosie: We invaded a soverign nation in defiance of the UN.

Sean: No.

No reasonable debate can occur when the participants refuse to acknowledge reality. He could have said "yes, but here is why it was appropriate to do so..." or some other statement, but to deny reality doesn't help the debate.

Sean: I don't believe that the government should be involved in life issues.

Really? You mean like opposing the state's right to allow medicinal use of marijuana? You mean like opposing the state's right to allow its citizens to die with dignity?

Last time I checked, the Justice Department was part of "government." It is a shame that an intelligent man like Hannity can't argue honestly.

Now, perhaps he doesn't agree with the Justice Department's actions, but I highly doubt it.

Sean: Are we better off with Hussein out of power?

Answer: that is the wrong question. The right question is whether it was worth the cost. The answer is that it wasn't. Over 1600 soldiers died (not to mention the large amount of civilian contractors who died and hundreds of billions of dollars was spent (with no end in sight).

And a majority of Americans not realize that the war wasn't worth the cost (about 57% to 43% against in US-- and about 37% to 63% against in UK)

Rosie is very annoying and Hannity failed to argue honestly. Isn't that a microcosm of politics today? The left is annoying and seeks to drown out argument instead of confronting it. The right plays fast and loose with facts and fails to argue honestly.

This is why no one ever changes anyone else's mind on any issue.

The hell with Rosie. I want to go on Hannity's show to talk about Iraq.

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"George W. Bush surrounds himself with smart people the way a hole surrounds itself with a donut." —Dennis Miller

I don't have speakers to listen to it again, but I believe the context is where she was explaining why she thinks Bush should be tried at the Hague. What Sean should have said is, "I don't give a rat's behind about the corrupt and inept UN."

His comment about life issues was in answer to fetal stem cell research and using tax dollars. It actually had absolutely nothing to do with state's rights. Granted, he should have been more clear with his answer, but he was not given a chance to clarify.

About the Saddam issue. In order to answer your question whether it's worth the cost, you would have to visit a parallel universe where Saddam is still in power and count the dead, maimed, and raped.

It's certain you would do a thousand times better than Rosie. But, he is not quite so polite on his own show. One of his greatest strengths is that he believes everything he says. He rarely loses an argument. Even when I disagree with him, I admit he's got pretty strong arguments.

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~Ronald Reagan

And that would be fine. The problem is that he started to discuss 1441 and 1441 didn't authorize force (no matter how desperately Bush wishes otherwise).

I know that he made a point saying that he opposed using tax dollars, but his statement was more vague and "life issues" doesn't seem like a phrase that one would conjure up in a split second. If he truely opposed the government getting involved with life issues, I would applaud him since the government doesn't have a right to interfere with a state's right to decide what is right for its citizens. And it is interesting to note that the marijuana decision was judicial activism since the government doesn't have a right, under the commerce clause, to outlaw drugs. The act of imbuing the government with more power than the Constitution allows is an example of conservative judicial activism.

If the states could have seen into the future to see the ubiquity of the federal government, the Constitution would NEVER have been ratified.

The most curious case of judicial myth in this area is a decision that held that a person growing wheat on his own property for his own consumption was engaged in interstate commerce because if all farmers acted similarly, their actions would have an affect on interstate commerce.

The only sanity in the commerce clause area was the case where Congress's Gun free Safety Act was struck on the ground that if the Court would have upheld the law, anything would be within Congress's control.

I haven't read the decision (i.e. the marijuana decision), but as an originalist, Scalia shouldn't have concurred with the majority. I am surprised that he didn't join with O'Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist in Dissent.

I have no doubt that the war was worth the cost for the iraqi people, but was it worth the cost to the US. I don't believe it was.

I agree with humanitarian missions, but we should never violate international law to do it and we should never have to pay the vast majority of the costs.

I have seen his show. He is a smart guy. But, when I do watch his show, I rarely see someone who has the facts and temerity to engage with him. Colmes is the shows liberal mascot rather than an ideological counterweight. And his guests (at least the ones opposed to him) are usually soft spoken and unsure of themselves.

If he said, "yes we defied the UN and international law to invade Iraq but we did so because the UN breached its duty to uphold international peace by sleeping on the job and allowing rampant corruption in its organization," then my job as an anti-war advocate would be FAR more difficult. But as soon as a person starts with Resolution 1441, I -- for one -- either know that they are intellectually dishonest or they have no idea what they are talking about. The rest of the conversation tells me which it is.

There is even an argument to be made that we should be relieved from the responsibility to request a resolution authorizing war since countries within the UNSC were behaving in bad faith and such a request for a resolution authorizing war would have been futile under the circumstances. But to use 1441 does help the argument of a pro-invasion advocate.

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"George W. Bush surrounds himself with smart people the way a hole surrounds itself with a donut." —Dennis Miller