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September 18, 2003

Thinking About Neoconservatism

By Kevin MacDonald

Over the last year, there’s been a torrent of articles on neoconservatism raising (usually implicitly) some vexing issues: Are neoconservatives different from other conservatives? Is neoconservatism a Jewish movement? Is it “anti-Semitic” to say so?

The dispute between the neocons and more traditional conservatives — “paleoconservatives” — is especially important because the latter now find themselves on the outside, looking in on the conservative power structure.

Hopefully, some of the venom has been taken out of this argument by the remarkable recent article by neoconservative “godfather” Irving Kristol (“The Neoconservative Persuasion,” Weekly Standard, August 25, 2003). With commendable frankness, Kristol admitted that

“the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy.”

And, equally frankly, Kristol eschewed any attempt to justify U.S. support for Israel in terms of American national interest:

“[L]arge nations, whose identity is ideological, like the Soviet Union of yesteryear and the United States of today, inevitably have ideological interests in addition to more material concerns… That is why we feel it necessary to defend Israel today, when its survival is threatened. No complicated geopolitical calculations of national interest are necessary.”

If the US is an “ideological” nation, this can only mean that the motivations of neoconservative ideology are a legitimate subject of intellectual inquiry.

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Most of the Jews I've known are liberals, not conservatives. Most of them hate Bush.

Israel is probably the only issue they agree with him on. To be honest I dont know that I have ever met or debated with a Neo-con Jew...

Did you ask Sinanju?

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By his own admission he is no longer a Neo-Con. He's a libertarian. Even using him as an example is only one...not a terribly high ratio.

Some more info. on Neo-Conservatives versus traditional ones: http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vo...rstandIII.html

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The only thing consistent with these links is that none of these people seem to have a clue as to what neo-cons really believe. They are projecting.

If Neo-cons were once jew-loving apologists, that is not the case anymore. Neo-cons have more in common with traditional conservatives and Liberatarians than they do with the Jewist agenda.

Is there any connection OTHER than Israel?

Too tired to explain, so the last link I will post regarding this: http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/review-AR.html

But, the articles I posted show the leaders of Neo-Conservatism and they are for the most part Jewish. They and their Jewish predecessors
were Liberals, until they saw anti-Jewish attitudes in Russia and saw that the Left no longer served specific Jewish interests, esp. with respect to Israeli hegemony. But they didn't want to support Traditional conservatism because they too did not serve Jewish interests but primarily the interests of the White majority. So, these Jews formulated Neo-conservatism, a theory that would allow for multiculturalism to keep Jews safe, but also support Israel very strongly and fight their wars. Anyway, please check out the new link, it's the last I will post regarding this issue.

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I cant think of any Jew Neo-cons myself. If that is how it once was, it's not like that anymore. Most of the Neo-cons I know are Christians, and the non-christian neo-cons are almost all atheists.

There are several among the most prominent advocates. Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby, Richard Perle, William Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Elliot Abrams, for instance.

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Never heard of any of em before now. Do any of these work for the Bush administration?