How did I know you were going to say that? I said I joined to protect America.


Read my post again. You really have comprehension problems don't you?

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"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built."

you're correct I assumed you wrote something relevant but I was wrong...

Nice.

It was an explination in the differences in why civilians do what they do, and the military. But I guess you decided to ignore that.

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"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built."

Yes, people should be free to do whatever they want in the free enterprise system to make as much money as they can. What do you find so evil about that? If they are doing something illegal to make their money, they will be found out and prosecuted. That is the way our system works, and has worked so well for all these decades. Don't knock success, old friend.

Please tell us of someone who has died because he couldn't afford health care.

Xanax. Heh, heh, heh!

Lasher knows a plumber who rakes in over $200,000 a year, and he told Lash that the money was the farthest thing from his mind when he went into the business. He said he went into plumbing as a way to alleviate the troubles and problems that poor people encounter when their little ones mistakenly throw their toys, clothes, etc. into the toilet and clog it up. He told of getting much pleasure just from the big smiles on their faces when the old throne was finally back in working order, and if the parents of the little darlings were poor enough to be on food stamps and public assistance, he wouldn't charge them anything, in fact, he claims to give many of his customers the money he has on him if the situation demands it. This man is a genuine "Mother Teresa" of his neighborhood. Physicians and surgeons need to take a clue from this virtual saint when treating the poor. All poor people should have their needs seen to by those of us who have been so blessed by our situations and fortune.

I have the right to a smooth operating crapper.
We should force him to subsidize our toilet installations and service them at a "fair" price too. He doesn't care about the money anyway.

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The most profound slavery must be that in which the slaves can conceive of no other possible or better world than their bondage.

My uncle had the good fortune to be associated with BBDO advertising in the 1960s. What I saw was absolutely amazing! Many people would never believe it! Mad Men was losely based on BBDO, but there are hundreds of national advertising agencies, and the lifestyle is still similar to the show.

Next time you watch Mad Men notice the opening credits where the advertising executive is free falling past skyrises covered with advertising withthat erie musical theme. Focus on what is on the skyrises. Creative advertising people are "free fallers." While they always risk hitting the ground hard, their highs are beyond any drug known. They truly are the Merlins of the 21st century. Today, I am an advertising man, and a free faller, and while it scares the hell out of me, I get to go to THE promise land often. The suicide rate among advertising people is only slightly less than that of psychiatrists.

The name of this thread is:

The Only Reason Americans Are Opposed To UHC Is Because They Are Selfish

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It isn't illegal as long as conservatives keep giving them a pass, but it is immoral. So much for the party of values. And as far as being found out and prosecuted - Ha, the Republican party might as well pat them on the back and tell them "well done" - like you are doing.


Yes, it works so well for the wealthy, you mean. If it works so well, why do we have 45M that are not insured. You are in a state of denial.

1.Regina Holliday will always remember the day the Senate took up health-care reform seven weeks ago. It was the day her husband died.
At home in the family's apartment on Connecticut Avenue NW, Fred Holliday succumbed to kidney cancer at age 39. He probably had had the disease for years, but with no health insurance, he couldn't afford the tests that might have explained the night sweats, fatigue and bloody urine. By the time he finally got a job that came with health coverage and got the tests he needed, it was too late: The cancer had spread and was inoperable.

2.Activists belonging to the libertarian wing of the Republican Party continue to mourn the loss of Kent Snyder, a 49-year-old gay political operative credited with propelling the presidential campaign of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) into a national, grassroots movement that raised more than $35 million.

Snyder, who served as Paul’s campaign chair, died of pneumonia on June 26 after being hospitalized for about two months and after running up medical bills exceeding $400,000, according to friends and family members, who said he did not have health insurance.

3.Deamonte Driver, 12, died of a toothache because his mother couldn’t afford to pay $80 to have a tooth extracted; the tooth abscessed and bacteria spread to his brain. After two surgeries and six weeks in the hospital, Deamonte was gone.

4.Devante Johnson, 14, died of kidney cancer after he spent four months uninsured while his mother tried to renew his Medicaid coverage. She filed application after application and appealed to a state representative. After the coverage was restored and he received first-rate care, Devante lost his battle with cancer.

This is one about someone who had insurance, but the insurance company, the way they operate now, declined her the care she needed.

About six months later, Potter was involved in the controversial case of a 17-year-old girl, Nataline Sarkisyan, who had been denied Cigna coverage for a liver transplant her doctors said she needed to live. Cigna declined to cover it because it was deemed an experimental procedure. As company spokesman, Potter had to defend the decision. Eventually, the company relented and agreed to pay for the operation, but it was too late. Sarkisyan died.

These are about someone that got ripped off by the insurance companies, that are working so well, according to you.

1. Our six-month-old daughter cost over $22,000.
You’d think, with a number like that, we must have used fertility treatments—but she was conceived naturally. You’d think we went through an adoption agency—but she is a biological child. So surely, we were uninsured.
Nope. Birthing our daughter was so expensive precisely because we were insured, on the individual market. Our insurer, CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield, sold us exactly the type of flawed policy—riddled with holes and exceptions—that the health care reform bills in Congress should try to do away with.

2.The insurance company was all too happy to cut my dad loose – he had congestive heart failure, crohn’s disease, and emphysema. His crohn’s left him so ill and weak that he couldn’t continue working, so he went on permanent disability and signed up for COBRA coverage with his insurance company. They forgot to include the dental so when that was added his premium payment changed, and that first month he confused the amount due and was 2 cents short. He missed the 30-day window to make good on the shortfall, and his insurance company cut him loose. He was too young to sign up for Medicare at the time so he was suddenly left without access to health care services.

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Today's problems cannot be solved if we still think the way we thought when we created them.
Albert Einstein

I believe it. So much for the party of "values", heh!

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Today's problems cannot be solved if we still think the way we thought when we created them.
Albert Einstein