http://www.techcentralstation.com/062205B.html
By Veronique de Rugy
[quote]The time has now come for fiscal conservatives to publicly admit the truth: the Republican complicity in the great spending spree of the

early 21st century has placed our agenda on life-support. By failing to cut spending while implementing tax cuts and fighting a war, we now find

ourselves in a predicament. The beast has not been starved, the deficit has once again become a political issue, and the chances of acceptable

Social Security reform, overhaul of the tax code, and the permanence of the previous tax cuts are all in jeopardy.



This dismal situation harkens back to events in the 1990s. Throughout the mid-1990s, the Republican Congress did a good job controlling

spending. Combined with pro-growth policies like welfare reform and a capital gains tax cut, an environment of rapid revenue growth and limited

spending growth emerged. The net result was a budget surplus.

It is well known that national crises -- particularly war -- always result in an expansion of government. The tragic events of September 11, 2001

were no different. In addition to the massive run-up in spending for the war effort, airport security was nationalized, the Department of Homeland

Security was created, an intelligence bureaucracy is being formed, and foreign aid continues to skyrocket. Also, instead of seeking concomitant

reductions in nondefense areas of the budget, Congress has sent spending across the board shooting through the roof.


Since the repubs have gotten control of all 3 branches, spebndding had shot up and its NOT due to the terror war either.Nice cover but farm

subsidees and the department of education have NOTHING to do with the terror war.
http://www.cato.org/research/fiscal_...figs.html#bush

Just from 1995 to 2004 it shows the repubs jacking up spending in his term 33%;


If I remember right, when Clinton was in office the repub houses passed budgets less than the president wanted. Now with george they are

passing them higher than what he asked for.
Take out the war in iraq, afgahnistan and homeland security and the discretionary non-defense spending has shot up.Bush is on a par if not beter

than even CArter.
The repubs are now the big governemt spen party.

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and conservatives have threatened relations with other countries while claiming OTHER countries are big spenders (i.e. china)

hahahaha. that cracked me up when rumsfeld said that garbage.

welcome to the light my friend. enjoy your stay.

That's what I keep trying to tell everyone! In practice the two sides are one.

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IMHO:

Republicans (Full of BAD IDEAS)

Democrats (Have NO IDEAS)

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I don't think so. It is doubtful that Clinton would have started the Iraq war although I imagine the conflict in Afghanistan would have occured. He probably would not have passed all those tax cuts while fighting a war. I don't think he would have passed the Medicare drug benefit w/o a provision that allowed Medicare to bargain for better bulk prices and some provision to pay for it. In some regards the parties have switched positions. I think Democrats are more likely to "spend" domestically which strikes me as a much better idea. At least when government spends on infrastructure or even healthcare in this country, it is money that circulates here. Instead, we are spending massive amounts of money on Becktel, Halibuton... to feed people and guard things over in Iraq. With massive amounts of borrowing and low-interest rates the economy should be roaring. Instead, the economy is puttering along in fits and starts- what can the feds do if (when?) we hit the rocks next time? Borrow more money?

So is Oceania at war with Eurasia or Eastasia now?

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bwahahahaha....thats the funniest thing anyone has said on this site...for real. i also like how people refer to the president as "bush" or even "bush and cheney" thats like refering to the gov as "big brother." im so sure the entire freaking government is only run by one texas dude that goes down on snack food.

gilligans down, gilligans down. games over man!!!!

You hit the nail on the head.

It's ironic that the Libertarians could become relevant if they weren't too busy pushing for abolition of the drug laws and supporting a person's right to rape farm animals. LOL

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I support the drug laws, thing, though. After spending billions each year we simply need to admit we lost the drug war.

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Whether or not Bush and Clinton are similiar is not the question. It's a comparison betweens democrats republicans (you might want to notice the "s" on the end of democrat and republicans). Besides that, using those two is a poor comparison when you consider the republicans still had a majority when Clinton was in office.

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