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Old 07-01-2005, 02:03 AM
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Default Freedom isn't free

And if you are an American reading this post, thank a vet.

I am off to our nation's capitol to celebrate the 4th with my family and pray for the safe return of my son-in-law from Afghanistan. He is due to come home on the 6th. I will miss seeing him by one day but he knows I am proud of him and his service to his country and his work in the war on terror.

Just a reminder to all who think you can support the troops but not the war in Iraq, YOU CAN'T!

If you are true to your beliefs you may disagree with the decision to go war with Iraq but not the war itself. To say you don't support the war is to say you want America and it's coalition to fail. If you want the war to fail, American vets must die, and if vets die you cannot reconcile your support for them with your lack of support for the war.

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FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!
Thats for sure.

In iraq's case, paid for by american blood and money.

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And if you are an American reading this post, thank a vet.

I am off to our nation's capitol to celebrate the 4th with my family and pray for the safe return of my son-in-law from Afghanistan. He is due to come home on the 6th. I will miss seeing him by one day but he knows I am proud of him and his service to his country and his work in the war on terror.

Just a reminder to all who think you can support the troops but not the war in Iraq, YOU CAN'T!

If you are true to your beliefs you may disagree with the decision to go war with Iraq but not the war itself. To say you don't support the war is to say you want America and it's coalition to fail. If you want the war to fail, American vets must die, and if vets die you cannot reconcile your support for them with your lack of support for the war.

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!
Get off your soap box already.

Actually you can support the troops without supporting the war. Just go here to get started if you haven't already.
http://www.dod.mil/americasupportsyou/support/help.html
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Default freedom does have a price ;)

freedom costs like 2.30 a gallon on average now, depending on where you live.

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Get off your soap box already.

Actually you can support the troops without supporting the war. Just go here to get started if you haven't already.
http://www.dod.mil/americasupportsyou/support/help.html
What Therese is saying is that you can't support the troops if you want the effort in Iraq to fail. That seems true to me.

I didn't support the decision to invade, but I hope for a good outcome and I hope we can turn over the country and bring home our troops as soon as possible with as few of them dying as possible.
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Default welllll i dont think...

that the iraq war is gonna be a success if we support it or not..i think if we dont support the war we are supporting the troops because we are gonna bring them home quicker and not have to deal with having their limbs get blown off only to be screwed by the government back home as they will have virtually no compensation for the rest of their freaking lives considering the price most of them pay for...pretty well nothing in this case, hate to say it. i ean...they are a good example of sacrificing for ideals, and im sure in the really long run there will be a benefit, but it will NEVER outweigh the costs of this stupid war. Even if Iraq turned into a little South Korea in the mideast like thirty years from now, it still wont be worth the alternatives. i hate seeing troops injured and people's lives get blown up over a bunch of stupid bs just because of some whacked irrational religious philsophy/political belief that benefits some elite beourgeisie pencil pushing/towel wearing aristocracy sitting behind in a mosque praying or behind a desk signing oil contracts. i hate seeing deaths not only on our side, but on the other side as well. war is a freaking mental illness. end of story. those who refuse to participate it and die anyway, or have their freedoms taken away anyhow are the truest heroes and martyrs in this life, and i look up to them as being brave more then anyother.
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Get off your soap box already.

Actually you can support the troops without supporting the war. Just go here to get started if you haven't already.
http://www.dod.mil/americasupportsyou/support/help.html
What Therese is saying is that you can't support the troops if you want the effort in Iraq to fail. That seems true to me.

I didn't support the decision to invade, but I hope for a good outcome and I hope we can turn over the country and bring home our troops as soon as possible with as few of them dying as possible.
I agree with his bottom paragraph which begins with saying that you can disagree with the reasons for going into Iraq but not the war itself. The war itself IMO is a lot bigger than just Iraq. I mean does anyone seriously think the war on terror will be over when our troops leave Iraq?

BUT then he also says that you can’t support the troops if you don’t support the war in Iraq which I don’t agree with because the war in Iraq isn’t the war were actually fighting in the whole grand scheme of things...or is it? Iraq is an isolated cluster F that has drawn our attention completely away from the actual WAR itself.

I know I’m not the only one who supports the war on terror but not the idiotic decision to get caught up in Iraq.

God bless our troops!
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And if you are an American reading this post, thank a vet.

I am off to our nation's capitol to celebrate the 4th with my family and pray for the safe return of my son-in-law from Afghanistan. He is due to come home on the 6th. I will miss seeing him by one day but he knows I am proud of him and his service to his country and his work in the war on terror.

Just a reminder to all who think you can support the troops but not the war in Iraq, YOU CAN'T!

If you are true to your beliefs you may disagree with the decision to go war with Iraq but not the war itself. To say you don't support the war is to say you want America and it's coalition to fail. If you want the war to fail, American vets must die, and if vets die you cannot reconcile your support for them with your lack of support for the war.

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!
Get off your soap box already.

Actually you can support the troops without supporting the war. Just go here to get started if you haven't already.
http://www.dod.mil/americasupportsyou/support/help.html

Now this was a brilliant come back.
I'll skip your link because if it is as exciting as your first remark, I won't be able to stay awake for it.
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:24 PM
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freedom costs like 2.30 a gallon on average now, depending on where you live.

Gas prices have nothing to do with supply and demand just what the military is doing. Another brilliant statement.
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Get off your soap box already.

Actually you can support the troops without supporting the war. Just go here to get started if you haven't already.
http://www.dod.mil/americasupportsyou/support/help.html
What Therese is saying is that you can't support the troops if you want the effort in Iraq to fail. That seems true to me.

I didn't support the decision to invade, but I hope for a good outcome and I hope we can turn over the country and bring home our troops as soon as possible with as few of them dying as possible.
I am glad you could clarify this for me. I didn't mean to be so cryptic.
This is why I enjoy your posts. While we might not always agree at least you try to understand where the other side is coming from and you do it without insults. Thank you!
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