I visited the ADL website the other day. Here’s their mission statement:


"Its ultimate purpose is to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens."
ADL Charter
October 1913

Here we’ve got a pro Israel, pro Zionist organization, that’s fighting (in their own words) “Anti-Semitism, bigotry and extremism.” What’s wrong with this picture? They’re not practicing what they preach, that’s what’s wrong with this picture. They…..

• Support the nation of Israel, which promotes Judaism in its
schools, while opposing even the singing of Christmas carols
in American public schools?
• Support the nation of Israel, which has strictly segregated
schools, communities, and facilities for Jews and Arabs —
while condemning segregated schools and housing in America
and South Africa?
• Support the nation of Israel, with its restrictive “Jews Only”
immigration laws, while subverting American attempts to
curtail even illegal immigration?
• Support the nation of Israel, which allows every Jewish citizen
to carry a machine gun if desired, while advocating strict
gun control for American citizens?
• Support the nation of Israel, which openly states its mission
to preserve the Jewish people and heritage, while condemning
Europeans who dare to advocate the preservation of the
Western heritage and culture in America?
• Always depict the historical relations between Jews and Gentiles
with the Gentiles as evildoers and the Jews as innocent
victims, while condemning Gentiles that simply dare to defend
themselves from such ethnic slanders?


Powerful American Zionist organizations advocate
one morality about racial pride for themselves and an opposite agenda for the rest. How come? And why is this tolerated?

Now, here comes the interesting part. Exposing this hypocrisy is considered racism

We MADE the modern nation of Israel, which makes us responcible for what happens there. You may not agree with that initial decision but, like Iraq, if we simply pulled the plug it would mean utter disaster for the nation and it's people.

You are aware that israel was founded on religious principle? And Israel completely allows arabs to teach islam in their schools?

First, most arabs choose to live away from jews. They choose to live in their own communities. Israel welcomes them with open hands, they did so at the beginning and they still do. Only problem, many arabs want to kill the jews, so the jews have to make certain restrictions on the arabs.

You are aware that Israel's founding principle was the creation of a jewish homeland? Thats the point of the nation. That all jews are welcome there. Thats the one place where they can find a home. Thats why Israel was created...

Well, when all your neighbors have been trying kill you for 50 years, so how you respond? What do you expect them? Lets just let them put down their guns and shut off their tanks and stop defending themselves? They have to be this way to survive.

I couldnt get to the website, but I have never of anyone being against the preservation of Western heritage. Granted I dont even know what that means? What, does it mean reading books or putting on plays?

Well, the Jews kinda are innocent victims... If a bunch of Catholic destroy your town and kill all the populace, forcefully convert everyone, and have a policy of killing every jew, or restricting what jobs the jews can have, or only letting them live in certain places, or not giving them a job because they're jewish.... thats being the victim. Jews are no better than gentiles, but being the minority, along with the whole jesus thing, has set up the jews to be attacked non stop by christians for 2000 years. Thats how its been.

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Its not racism, its bs and anti-semitism.

Would criticism of the JDL (Jewish Defense League) also be characterized as anti-Semitism?

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It depends on the type of criticism.

Israel is FAR closer to a democracy than any of their enemies are. For that reason alone they deserve support.

Doesn't make the above statement less true.

No, looking at the body-count, it's pretty much the other way around. Israel's founding fathers (like Menachem Begin ) were Arab killing terrorists.

Check out the IDF soldiers posing with another fresh victim. Having a good time too.

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/zion..._murdered_.jpg


Well, why not have a Christian America? Why not a white America? Why shouldn't America be allowed to forbid marriage between Jews and non-Jews like in Israel?

I'll tell you why, because it's racism.

O...poor Zionists. Just look at them.

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/zion..._murdered_.jpg



I have.... plenty of times. What Zionists call racism in America, is exactly what they do in their homeland.

For instance, Israel forbids marriage between a Jew and an non-Jew, and American Zionist Organizations support Israel. But what would happen if Uncle Sam forbids marriage between Christians and Jews?

All hell would break loose.

O yeah, especially in Palestine. Forgot the Deir Yassin massacre?

So was Apartheid South Africa.

Yes, such is the current situation in this crazy world of ours.

As long as a terrorist group (by the FBI and Dept. of Energy classification) can be connected to some righteous (sounding) cause, we should treat it with kid gloves? Interesting, but that may explain a lot...

What type of criticism should not be acceptable in relation to a group like the JDL? Since they show up on some of the same lists with other extremist groups, I'll ask, should that same criteria apply to them: Council of Conservative Citizens, Pioneer Fund, Volksfront and the Westboro Baptist Church?

Some real sweethearts there. And I'm sure they also have a heart wrenching story or two that explains why they feel and act the way they do.

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Afterall, the ANC had a strong communist element for most of its existence, well before the Afrikaner regime was toppled. And we won't even bring up SWAPO. But the U.S. (and most of the world) bowed to pressure initially created by the ANC and its supporters... against the closer to democracy Botha regime.

Of course, you could also note the one country that remained a firm trading partner and military supplier to South Africa... while it was an international pariah and well before it became "enlightened" by Mandela & Co. Which country was that? Maybe the same country that really helped South Africa develop its nuclear capability? Yeah, I think so.

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