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Old 07-13-2005, 08:08 AM
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Default Embracing Illegal Immigrants

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Are you in favor of tougher or more lenient U.S. immigration policies?

Tougher 73 %
More lenient 21 %
Our policies are working fine 6 %
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So with a wary eye on the heated political debate, business is targeting the Valenzuelas and millions of others who have entered the country illegally. Many companies do so more or less openly. Wells Fargo has half a million matrícula accounts, a majority of them, they acknowledge, opened by unauthorized aliens who lack regular residency or citizenship papers. At the Valenzuelas' branch, fully 80% of accounts are opened by matrícula holders. Blue Cross of California, whose parent, WellPoint Inc., is the nation's largest health insurer, sells health insurance to matrícula holders from company-staffed desks set up inside Mexican and Guatemalan consular offices in the U.S. Sprint Corp. accepts such an I.D. for cell-phone contracts.

Other companies, such as Kraft Foods Inc., won't discuss the status of their customers but explicitly target Hispanic newcomers -- more than half of whom are estimated to enter the U.S. illegally, according to a new study by Pew.
Does El Presidente Fox (ironic name, eh? ) have compromising pictures of our Senators and Congress people? Drug gangs all but run some border towns, yet Americans who call for border clamp downs are called racists by some Mexicans nationals... and are ignored by the U.S. government. With this border situation, the War on Drugs becomes a(n even bigger) joke. And the War of Terror becomes (even more) compromised.
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This is all just more proof of globalization occuring. Loss of borders and independence just leads to loss of freedoms. Kiss your country goodbye.
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Default Immigrant Rights

Throughout U.S. history, immigrant labor, either voluntary or involuntary, has helped build the industries, schools, roads, railways, and neighborhoods of this country. The push to end the exploitation of immigrants and expand their rights to live, work, vote, and prosper in the United States is a fundamental goal of the larger working-class movement. Both the Bush Administration and corporate America use race, gender, sexuality and immigration status to divide workers and communities for their own profit.

The current system criminalizes immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants. The YCL believes that a two-tiered society that differentiates immigrants from native-born citizens is unjust, undemocratic and harmful to our generation. The legal status of immigrant workers has been viciously and unjustly used to exploit both documented and undocumented immigrants, in an attempt to drive down wages and working conditions, scare immigrant workers from speaking out, and undermine the potential for workplace solidarity across lines of race, ethnicity, and immigration status. Furthermore, immigrant communities in the U.S. have increasingly faced the threat of violence, deportations, denial of visas, and harassment in the post-September 11 anti-immigrant backlash.

In 2003 groups representing labor, youth, people of color, women, LGBT, community activists and others formed the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride Coalition.

The four principles of the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride are: protection of civil rights and civil liberties; family reunification; legalization and a "road to citizenship"; and the protection of rights on the job. These principles still motivate the immigrant rights movement.

The YCL supports and salutes the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride and its fight against the Bush agenda and the right-wing attacks on immigrants, working people and youth. The coalition gives a real voice to working people, native-born and immigrant, and builds the power necessary for our generation to fight back against the right-wing attack and move our country forward.



We support legislation such as the DREAM Act, which would allow undocumented students in colleges and universities across the country to receive financial aid.

We believe that access to quality education is a right for all, regardless of immigration status.

We join labor, immigrant rights and civil liberties organizations in demanding the restoration and expansion of the civil rights of immigrants, which are denied due to undocumented status and were further stripped away after September 11.

We call for ending the "special registration" of immigrants from certain countries for so-called national security purposes, along with the denial of due process and legal counsel for detained immigrants.

We call for a full amnesty policy that enables immigrants who have been living and working in the United States to change their status and become citizens with full legal rights.

We demand protections for immigrant workers who organize on the job, barring employers from firing them and having them deported once they speak up at work.

Finally, the question of family reunification strikes at the heart of our generation and we demand an end to the current immigration policies that separate and divide hundreds of thousands of families.
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Default Swarzwald.....plagairism

The only thing that I will say in response to your argument is that it is complete baloney. You continue to plagiaries other's words. This is the second instance in about 3 days that I did a google search by just highlighting your entire post and putting it on the exact phrase part of a google search. It doesn't all fit but I get links to sights that have paragraphs of what does fit word for word. Provide a link if you're going to use someone else's words. Then I'll respond to your idiot ideology.
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This is all just more proof of globalization occuring. Loss of borders and independence just leads to loss of freedoms. Kiss your country goodbye.
Loss of freedoms has nothing to do with loss of border and loss of independence. Loss of freedoms mostly occurs when free people are afraid. Look at the Patriot Act that was written long before 9/11 but only passed while free Americans were afraid. Look at the assault on the Bill of Rights by the Bush Administration. From declaring people "enemy combatants" (and those avoiding Constitutional protections and Geneva Convention rights) and abducting people and alighting them out of the country with no opportunity to exercise their constitutional rights.

I know that people like Catz, JP5 and Barney constantly refer to me as a "blame America first" "liberal" and I don't want you to take my word for any of what I just wrote. Instead, go to your local library and borrow "Constitutional Crisis" by the non-blame America first, non-liberal Fox News commentator Judge Andrew Napolitano. Certainly, that is a man any Conservative can trust. The book is short and so easy to read that I have but 40 pages left and I completed all I have read in one sitting during one Yankee baseball game (the one when they crushed Baltimore the other day).

Seriously, get the book and read it. I guarantee that you won't believe that open borders are the real danger to our freedoms afterward.
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I guarantee that you won't believe that open borders are the real danger to our freedoms afterward.
I can see your point. So, maybe not so much our freedoms (which I agree with), but certainly to our safety. Despite the pleadings of Presidente Fox, we do have the right to say who is coming and going... and what rights they have once they get here (illegally).

I admire the work ethic of most of the people who cross the border (legally and illegally). But it seems that those in power (Democrats and Republicans) prefer to turn a blind eye, despite the desires of the American people.
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Default oh boy, yet another silly thread

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Throughout U.S. history, immigrant labor, either voluntary or involuntary, has helped build the industries, schools, roads, railways, and neighborhoods of this country.
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The push to end the exploitation of immigrants and expand their rights to live, work, vote, and prosper in the United States is a fundamental goal of the larger working-class movement.
Again, true. But what is so hard to understand about that little word 'Legal'? Why is it such a bad thing to not want to accept illegal immigration? I am so tired of paying for these people to live in my country illegally. I am so tired of my government taking my money to feed, house, and give medical care to people who have no right to it since they are here ILLEGALLY

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The current system criminalizes immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants.
How cute that you substitute the word Illegal with the word undocumented.

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The only thing that I will say in response to your argument is that it is complete baloney. You continue to plagiaries other's words. This is the second instance in about 3 days that I did a google search by just highlighting your entire post and putting it on the exact phrase part of a google search. It doesn't all fit but I get links to sights that have paragraphs of what does fit word for word. Provide a link if you're going to use someone else's words. Then I'll respond to your idiot ideology.
That's hysterical!

An illegal immigrant should have no rights in this country. They should have no civil liberties. They should not be given free medical care. Welfare. Etc. It's not fair tot he people who work and slave day in and day out, paying taxes and making their own ends meet.
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We need to control our borders. These illegals keep sucking up our resources with the taxes that hard working Americans make.

Also the hispanic community as a whole need to assimulate a little bit more into the culture of this country. It riducules when you in country for 8 yrs and you still barely speak it. Not speaking english makes us ingnorant and easy target of manipulation from these punk politicians.
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