China readies for future U.S. fight

HONG KONG, China (CNN) -- The Iraqi war has convinced the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leadership that some form of confrontation with the U.S. could come earlier than expected.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapc.../willy.column/

What will happen between these two nations in the next 100 years. This is only speculation but still, interesting to talk about.

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I got news for China...those efforts have been underway for some time now. Suprise!

They will have to choose...walling themselves off to prevent US contamination or opening their markets to obtain economic superiority. If they choose the latter, it means we are more likely to infect their population with our culture.

We win either way. Choice A, we retain economic (and military) domination. Choice B, they become so much like us they are no longer a threat.

China definetly IS the enemy of the US but maybe not militarily, economically China is a deadly threat to the USA. i think the American over estimate their economic strength. Both the EU and China have massive potential to overtake the USA, in China's case i think we could see China overtake the USA economically in about 10-15 years.

The thing is China definetly has much more going for it than the USA.......they have had a long long time to prepare defences against any US invasion........plus a 3 million strong land army ( which could grow up to about 50 million if a war broke out) and the worlds largest air force.....

Look one a website and try and find Chinas military stats.........their whole army, navy, air force is 100% geared towards defence, plus they are nuclear plus they are allied with North korea (also have had time to prepare defences against USA)

Countries like Vietnam and Laos would probally help China against the USA too.....considering how much they depend on the chinese.

What an odd concept of 'win.'

So 'we' are the only standard to which all others must aspire? Good grief.

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Yeah, pretty much. That seems obvious to me.

We are economically wealthier, technologically more advanced, and militarily more powerful than any nation in human history, past or present. I think that entitles us to "the standard to which all others asipre" status.

The PRC could very well pass us up economically...but not unless they open their society up. They know what will happen if they do that however. We win either way.

The country is wealthier - the average American is not. We are not first in anything except military spending. Look up the comparisons to other countries.

Funny, those who claim we are the ideal to aspire to usually are the same ones who complain in other areas that our society is decadent, immoral and troubled. But maybe they just mean the parts they don't agree with.

The problem with keeping the state of mind that we are the best is that it prevents us from improving.

China is going to be a force to be reckoned with, and underestimating them, or blithely assuming that we will overcome them in any way would be a mistake.

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lol.......In case America hasn't noticed China is like already massivly powerful economically, and growing. You have to ignore this statistic rubbish...

Look

Stats tell us that japan (for example) is economically stronger than China...

BUT

In reality China much much more economic influence and productivity than Japan, for a start they have lots more people....

China has a Capitalist economy....IT HAS OPENED UP.......whether or not the Chinese choose to adopt Amercan principles and culture is irrelevant.

Ok China might be a bit nasty....and OK they treat people pretty badly............but the American constitution rabbles on about all Amercians being equal etc etc etc............THEN WHY ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN THE USA STILL 2ND CLASS CITIZENS???????? The Amercians have an awful human rights record........which rivals Hitlers....( 1 million innocent people killed in Vietnam + many more soldiers.......thousands of communists executed in Panama etc etc etc)

It still makes me laugh that the Amercians think they are all powerful and STILL after 9/11 underestimate everyone.......

Look America, my country built the greatest empire on earth since Alexander the great (British Empire).......we did that by respecting our foes......(even if we were heavy handed)

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Please post your evidence that the average Chinese citizen is wealthier than the average American. I call buIlsh!t.

See for yourself - http://www.nationmaster.com/ -

What source are you using that says the average chinese citizen makes more than the average American citizen? I'll be happy to look up the comparisons if you provide the source. None of my sources agree with your conclusion.

When it comes to economy, military, and technology, yes...we are the ideal to which other nations aspire.

"Troubled", "decadent" and "immoral" are subjective criteria.

I am not assuming that. I said that we will win either way, even if we do not overcome them economically (which I clearly said was a possibility).

They have 5 times our population and half our GDP. Obviously numbers are not the dominant variable.

The only reason they are a manufacturing power is because that is all they can do right now. And there are manufacturing alternatives to China. They hardly have a monopoly on cheap labor.

Sort of like saying that it is warmer outside if the temprature has risen from 30 below zero to 20 below zero. Yeah, it is technically warmer, but it doesnt mean a whole lot.

The PRC is hardly an analog of America (or any other free nation for that matter) when it comes to an open economy. Their reforms are a start, but they will need to go a lot further to usurp American dominance.

The only bright spot for them economically is Hong Kong, which IS an analog to America. That is what the future of China must look like if they want to take away our dominance.

Explain to me what it is that black people are not allowed to do in America.

If we underestimated everyone why would we be spending so much on our military? That makes no sense.

Well...until us anyway. Now your "empire" is a satellite of the US.

If by "respect" you mean turn them into slave states, then yeah.

So the US has one of the highest hourly wage rates in the world

http://ip.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/10/6/338/T2

And workers are required to work among the fewest hours in the world to pay for these safety devices (meaning it is reasonable to assume that the number of hours required to work to pay for other items such as food, tv's, etc would be relatively similar).

http://ip.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/10/6/338/T3

So what standard would you use to determine that the US is not among the wealthiest in the world in terms of individuals as well as a country?

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Consider: China becomes percieved as a threat as it gains economic power. Yet, it's economic power is directy proportional to the extent to which it is willing to embrace capitalism. So, as it embraces capitalism it has much more to lose by threatening the U.S.

They are? Wow, I wonder if my black friends know they're using the wrong drinking fountain?

Refresh my memory... when were we Americans gassing people by the millions and throwing them into ovens?

I'm curious... where exactly are you getting your information from?

If by underestimating everyone, are you referring to the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security,the passage the Patriot Act, the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, or the spending of hundereds of billions of dollars? I would hate to see what we would do if we over-estimated everyone...