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Old 08-03-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Executions in Israel?

Controversy over 'execution' pictures

Eleven photographs taken by an amateur photographer from his window in east Jerusalem have caused outrage in the Arabic media, which allege they show the summary execution of a Palestinian militant.
Israeli police said the man was a would-be suicide bomber who they were forced to kill to prevent him from detonating a "large explosive device" strapped to his waist.

The AFP news agency - which published the graphic, but inconclusive images below - said it had received the testimonies of more than 10 eyewitnesses, who said the man was shot half-an-hour after his arrest when he was completely subdued.

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Israeli police are first pictured arresting 23-year-old suspected suicide bomber Mahmud Salah (centre) and another man

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Salah - who was on a bombing mission for the militant al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade - is brought to the ground by a police

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The other detainee is led away but Salah is kept on the tarmac

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This photo appears to belie an official statement saying police only opened fire when Salah refused to remove his overcoat.

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A robot device then removed what was described as Salah's explosives belt.


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Old 08-05-2005, 02:45 AM
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ok? he refused to remove his coat. WHY? Why did he refuse to remove his coat?

I dont see why you critisize Israeli Police and Defense Forces with a double standard. The same thing just happened in the UK a week or two ago. A person who was stopped began running and disobeying the police, and he was shot 5 times in the head after behind trampled on the ground.

A week later he was not a terrorist whatsoever.

What makes the difference here? If you are innocent, then comply with the police, if not then they have no other solution but to assume you are hiding something and kill you before you detonate something with the movement of one finger.

If any nation in the world was put under the same circumstances, the same result would have happened. Why would IDF forces go through all the trouble, even bringing a bomb inspector robot to just maliciously kill one man?

And who is a better source then BBC... one of the most anti-Israel media outlets in the world, along with CNN London, and AP.

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Should I add, what is your point here that you are trying to make? You are trying to prove that Israel supports execution? Did you know that Israel's Justice system is one of the most strict and law-biding in the world. There is a saying that Israel fights terror with one hand behind their back. If the soldier was found to intentionally kill the suspect for no reason, that solder would be behind bars. When you make an argument, here, and in other threads, please put it into context next time.
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Default makes perfect sense

Ties in with historic Israeli policies, and now, US international policy; sanction to kill/destroy all those who you suspect may be a problem at some unspecified future time.

Saves all that bother about guilt, proof, justice etc. and justifies any willful act of maniacal aggression. Woopee!
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Ties in with historic Israeli policies, and now, US international policy; sanction to kill/destroy all those who you suspect may be a problem at some unspecified future time.

Saves all that bother about guilt, proof, justice etc. and justifies any willful act of maniacal aggression. Woopee!
Lol, are you being sarcastic?
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The guy was on a bombing mission. I'm supposed to feel sorry for him?

If they gratuitously killed him, they should be disciplined. But he was a *suicide bomber.* Not some innocent Palestinian.
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The guy was on a bombing mission. I'm supposed to feel sorry for him?

If they gratuitously killed him, they should be disciplined. But he was a *suicide bomber.* Not some innocent Palestinian.
lol. You guys are funny.
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who had explosives tied to his waist then my answer would be...who gives a crap. Good riddance.
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So they should NOT kill suicide bombers? I think that's a bad policy. Think about this way: He was going to die anyway. They just sped the process along and no one else died. A happy ending.
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So they should NOT kill suicide bombers? I think that's a bad policy. Think about this way: He was going to die anyway. They just sped the process along and no one else died. A happy ending.
Who says he's a suicide bomber? Israel? Israel is the least credible nation as far as I'm concerned.


All I see is a guy in his underpants with a bullet in his head. The result of the extreme Gentile-hate and supremacism in Israel. Some say, the source of this hate and supremacy is the Jewish religion and the Jewish Talmud (Judaism's most holy book). I don't know, everybody has to figure that one out for themselves.
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ok? he refused to remove his coat. WHY? Why did he refuse to remove his coat?

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Actually if you look at the pics carefully and also read the BBC report, you see that Israel's official story doesn't match the pics or the witnesses' testimony. Now there are two possible explanations:

1.The Israeli witnesses were all part of a big anti semitic spy network and lied on purpose, just to discredit the Jewish state.
2.The camera, was one of them special "anti semitic cameras"

Witnesses say, the guy was shot, approximately a half hour after he was fully under control (stripped). The pics support this claim.
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