Hello, every one!
I am a medical student in China and currently doing my research project in USA and will be here for next 2 years.
I know there are lots of american people here so I chose here to post some of my thoughts. It has buried in my mind since a long time ago.
Before you read, please note as a premise that I like American people and I am here not to debate but only to express my opinions and listen to yours. I believe communications are more important than debate to clear the misunderstandings. So please be polite.

My family is in Beijing, which is the capital of China, PR. My parents were workers when I was a kid, but now my mother is a civil servant and my father has an ordinary job with ordinary salary in a company. I tell you this because I want you to know my social status which could help you to extend my opinion to a much wider population in China.

I believed in Communism, as almost all my classmates and peers, since very young. If you ask for my religion or belief and that is mine. There is a paradise, people can share and work together for community's future based on fortune and high moral. Isn't that amazing? I thought this must be the same wish of everyone in this world who are not insane.
But when I grew up, I found this might not be scientifically feasible, although the future of our world will be better and better in some other ways. Well, who knows. So I didn't join the Party. This changes in mind also happened in the Communist party in China. Unlike their colleagues in North Korea, the government initiated a series of gradual reform policies which made China become more open and modern in these 27 years.

If you randomly ask a citizen in China to judge their govenment. He/she will surely list out a lot of things he/she is not satisfied, just like a citizen in USA. However, as a traditional way of talking, he/she will add his/her most important conclusion in end of his talk, that he/she appreciates so much that the current government drived away all the invaders and tyrants in China 56 years ago and make his/her living better and better everyday.
These two things will never be forgotten before we judge our government.

I invite you to visit China, not only Beijing and Shanghai, the cities as modern as Tokyo and London, but those small poor and outlying villages in the western China as well. You will surely understand the achievement we have made and also the difficulties that our government and people encountered. You will be so amazed about our huge population that almost forget the sort-of human rights violations in Birth Control Policies. You will appreciate what we have done to make 1/5 people in this world have foods and rights to survive. (Please don't sniff, there are 1/2 people starved when the PRC was founded which is several times more than the current US population and the indefinite land of China and her economy was suffered and raped for a hundred years since 1840 at that time.)

The government and policies definitely have their problems. People know that, and the government knows that too. Things are really changing, however, in our own ways. If you were not born in a country with a history of 5000 years, you will not understand there will be different ways to perform the decromacy and freedom.

I thought Amerian people cherish more about independence and freedom. But do you think it is independent and free to let people's own homeland and government changed by aliens according to an alien's standard? I know you will say that those people anticipating those changes and you are helping them. Really? At least I will not let any foreigners to "help" us by slaughtering our soldiers and officers. Whatever they are working for, they are working for my country. We have our rights and freedom to choose whatever we are and whatever ways to change and reform. If there is a revolution in China, the rebells should be us, not you. What the US goverment caring about is not the lives in other countries, but the oil, fortune and anything that can make sure your arrogant government the leader and No.1 in this world.
I can't tell if China becomes the most powerful country in this world, what will her government do? Because it is politics which I don't like.

Currently I decided to develop an online community(WorldOL.org) to help in communications between people from different countries and religions. I hope this would help to make our own dream come ture. Whatever it is, people's utopia or God's heaven, it must be like a paradise that all the human race are cherishing.

Well, thank you for your time and have a nice day!

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Welcome, hope you enjoy this forum.

Just try not start any arguments over communism, just about all of us here hate communism, so its better not to go there. (I myself immigrated from the USSR to the USA, thank G-d for that!)

Have fun!

All well and good. But be aware that this is a debate forum...any opinions you might express here are subject to scrutiny and criticism, and most people here will expect you to back up anything you claim as a fact with a source. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

I dont doubt it. The PRC government is very careful to restrict access to outside media that oppose their views.

The Paradise comes at a cost; you no longer have control over your own destiny. The government makes decisions for you, like a Parent. Unlike a parent however, there is no guarentee that they will necessarily have your best interests at heart.

If the only alternative were the dominion of Imperial Japan, I would probably agree with them. Due to the restricted media access in China, I believe that the vast majority of the population is ignorant of what their real options are. They simply see the government as too powerful to do anything against them however, like a force of nature. The government fosters this image deliberately in my opinion, to keep the Chinese masses docile.

Heh heh..."sort of". Case in point. They are not "sort of" human rights violations. And they are not the only violations. By refusing to give the Chinese masses a voice in the laws that govern them, the Chinese People are reduced to little more than pets; which many Americans find offensive. It is one of the reasons most Americans dont like the PRC very much.

They only have whatever rights the PRC government chooses to grant them. They might as well be on a leash.

A well cared for slave is still a slave.

I agree. One of the biggest problems is that they exist at all.

I doubt the PRC will ever willingly surrender it's power. I cant think of any totalitarian government in recent history that has surrendered it's power without a fight.

We can always hope that the PRC will be the first, but I am not holding my breath.

What does history have to do with anything? That is not an excuse to absolve a government of oppression.

It is not "our" standard though. By freeing people from oppression, they are then able to make their OWN standard. No despot, no totalitarian government has a RIGHT to oppress it's citizens. Period.

People are not pets or objects to be owned. Despotic governments have no right to exist.

If they are assisting an oppressive government, they are part of the problem. We did not cry for the Nazi's that died in WWII, or the Imperial Japanese we had to kill (even those not directly involved in Killing Americans...or Chinese).

No, they are working for the people that control your country. Since you do not control your own country, it isnt really your's.

Not really. You have whatever rights and freedoms the government allows you to have. You cannot legally take away any power they do not want to surrender. At this point it would require another revolution for complete reform...if you wanted reform.

If we believe we are under threat by your government, and you refuse to revolt against them, we will take amtters into our own hands. That is what happened in Iraq. We will not sit by and wait forever for you to do something if we believe we are at risk.

If you relly believe that, you still have a lot to learn about us.

Unfortunately, we share in the consequences of your ignorance of politics. Not that I blame you...you are limited as to what ideas you are allowed to see within the country. But we share in the consequences nontheless.

We know what totalitarian governments are capable of...we have been dealing with them for a very long time. If you think the US is bad, you aint seen nothin yet.

One point of your stood out was allowing aliens to change the country. Unfortunately we see that now with politicans pandering to certain ethnic groups emmigrating here so that they can win their vote. And these are people who are coming from areas with some of the most corrupt governments in the world. Do we really want someone whose only experience with government is corruption in places like Mexico or Somalia or Nigeria, etc to determine our fate? Or someone who is going to vote for a politician because of what they will do or give to other foreign countries? Someone who has no idea what America is about. I think new residents should have to be a citizen for a period of time (who knows what, maybe 4-5 years) before they can vote. It will never happen though.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

It takes a while (and a lot of effort) to become a citizen. That accomplishes much the same thing. Most new citizens I know are more committed to American ideals than most Americans by birth.

Sadistic Savior, the Soviet Union collapsed with hardly a shot being fired. It wasn't particularly orderly, but the process began at the top, not at the bottom. I think China's leaders actually are interested in effecting a peaceful transformation; but the crunch will come when the economic freedom fuels demands for political freedom.

Welcome, duskdawn. As you can see, there's a lively range of opinion around here. I hope you stick around and find it illuminating.

I recognize that many Chinese support their government, and that that government is not really evil. But a benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship. You are not truly free until the government is answerable to you.

Until you can form separate political parties, freely elect representatives of your choice, comment freely on political and economic developments, read independent uncensored media and pursue the economic course of your choice, you are not free and we will continue to view China with skepticism.

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Man up.

If you win the lottery in a foreign country it doesn't take that much time to become a citizen. My wife did it in 18 months. Work in law enforcement a while, you'll find that there are plenty of foreigners who don't have our best interests at heart. That isn't the case with all foreigners, but it is true of certain countries more than others. Mexico and Cape Verde comes to mind as two countries where the crime rates are disproportionate to American born citizens.

And (sorry poster above), but Chinese are notorious for health code violations in their places of business. In NYC in particular, Chinese businesses make up a much more disproportionate percentage of health code violations (interestingly enough I learned that this weekend while watching Discovery).

And how can you understand American ideals if you can't even speak the language??? The other requirement should be a written english test.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

I imagine European countries enjoy expedited procedures.

This is a common misperception. There already is an English requirement:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/natzsamp.htm

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Man up.

Practice writing a handful of sentences and mission accomplished. They should be conversational. One only need talk with a few dozen immigrants from Mexico to know that it isn't much of a test.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Thank you for your comments. That's what I expected. However, I especially don't like this paragraph.
Let's say, you have a dog in your house, and you have this dog because you like dogs. I have a cat in my house, and I have it because I like cats. However, your dog seems growing much bigger than my cats these few months and starts scaring my cats. Well, if I believe my cat and I are under threat by your dog, and you refuse to kill your dog, I will take amtters(sorry that might be a typo and I don't know which word it should be) into my own hands. My cat and I will not sit by and wait forever for you to do something if we believe my cat and I are at risk.

China has growing more and more powerful, that's what Chinese people anticipating for these 200 years. Because you are at a "risk", maybe political or economic, you want to send troops into our territory and change our lives? I would say NO. People in China has suffered from this for a hundred years and will DEFENITELY NEVER let any ARMED aliens stepping into our homeland. If your government really do this, you will encounter the same fate in Vietnam and Korea.
US are not the king of the world, nor an Administrator. You are just a member of this world that happened to be rich. So please stop saying that you will do something to punish somebody. You don't have the rights.
IT IS INVASION!

Sorry about my tones. INVASION to us is like 911 to you, and much much more humiliating. It's like to someone whose mother being raped.

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I'd stop worrying. There are a billion of you. We're not going to invade even if we wanted to.

Where the United States and China will come into conflict is in economics, diplomacy, and efforts by China to project power beyond its borders. But China itself is just too big to invade.

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