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Old 08-14-2005, 09:59 PM
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European colonization in the 21 century.

This time, it is decolonization. The primitive creed of human beings flood in and there is nothing to stop them. Not only are 'indigenous' Europeans aging, they are so liberal that they don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*).

Europeans are the real extremists. They are either Nazis or Communists, and now they try to compensate by being 'really nice.'

Far leftwingers in general, think everyone in the world shares their view except their evil conservative neighbors. While the liberals attempt to appease Muslim Fanatics, these very fanatics are laughing in their faces.

France, as pronounced by an Egyptian religious leader, is a Muslim outpost and has Muslim Clerical representatives.

So, why not deport the immigrants?? "It's not humanitarian!" While Muslim Clerics in Britain justify the bombings, "humanitarian" organizations cry out to not deport them fearing that they will be tortured in their countries.

What upsets me most is when European liberals compare deporting immigrants to the Holocaust.

As stated by a Christian democrat in Germany, Europe's Jews differed from immigrants in Europe today because they spoke European lanuguages, ate European foods, etc. They were Eurpoeans of a different faith simply.

So do not try to compensate for killing innocent people in the holocaust by being nice to people who try to terrorize and proselytize you.

By no means am I saying that all Muslims are bad. I have a very good friend from India, who happens to be a devout Muslim. However, a large portion of Muslims sympathize with the small percentage of terrorists and help them.

These very immigrants multiply like flies, and will soon be such a huge voting block that all politicians must appease them, even if it is wrong. This even happens today, ladies and gentlemen. The communists and other far left wingers will ally with the Muslim population to outvote all. We are in a terrible dilema.

How can far left wingers still be so disillusioned. They really believe that all people are of a contructive nature, Placing their fate in the U.N., a super corrupt entity.

The world is run by things like oil, that's why after the U.N. partition of Palestine-Israel in 1948 noone came to the aid of the 300,000 Jews against 45,000,000 Arabs. Afterwords, the Jews were condemned, even though they treated their Arab citizens very well. Arab Israelis have a much higher standard of living than other of their kin. The U.N did not intervene then, and what if Israel would lose the 1948 war? 300,000 Jews would be massacred. But when Israel gets to 50 kilometers from Cairo, the world threatens to intervene.

I love and hate Europe, because of its achievments and also all the horrible things done.

EVEN THE BRITISH, the most rightous people, are responsible for very much human suffering. True, they did help civilize India and China (they forbided practices such as burning widows, helped keep peace between the peace between rajas), however they colonized the people and raped them of their dignity. France did a similiar thing. And Germany, well of course, was responsible for tens of millions of deaths. I'd also like to mention that in their attempt to appease their colonized Arab population, Great Britain issued the white paper forbidding immigration of over 13,000 Jews per year to Palestine, in effect responsible for thousands, even millions of deaths in the Holocaust.

Well, soon it will all be over for the Europeans. Their identity will dissapear as they are taken over, from within. It's so sad. Maybe the world can be like the Lord of the Rings, an awosme novel, where the West rises up against surmountable odds and saves itself against Mordor and it's allies (think of middle earth and Earth in terms of geographical terms.) Mordor, the south east, and its allies the easterlings and southerlings may just be beaten back.

A call to action! Because I am concerned does not mean that I am a rascist or an evil doer. By deporting somone, and giving them $20,000 so they can restablish themselves, one is not perpetrating a humanitarian crime.

There are far left wingers in Europe, and then there are far right wingers in Europe Like Le Pen.

The hell with Europe, I am an American. Praise George Bush, who my brainwashed student colleagues hate but they don't even know why.

From the ditch of the Soviet Union, I truly come to admire America and neoconservatives like George Bush.

G-d bless America for holding this world in balance.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:21 PM
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Europeans are the real extremists. They are either Nazis or Communists, and now they try to compensate by being 'really nice.'
Last time I checked, fascism and communism were wiped from Europe.

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Far leftwingers in general, think everyone in the world shares their view except their evil conservative neighbors.
Umm, nope. They do know that many others disagree with them....

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While the liberals attempt to appease Muslim Fanatics, these very fanatics are laughing in their faces.
Are we talking about Iran...? Cause America hasnt been doing much there anyways....

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France, as pronounced by an Egyptian religious leader, is a Muslim outpost and has Muslim Clerical representatives.
Well, duh, thats cause 10% of the population is muslim... whats your point?

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So, why not deport the immigrants?? "It's not humanitarian!" While Muslim Clerics in Britain justify the bombings, "humanitarian" organizations cry out to not deport them fearing that they will be tortured in their countries.
Umm, the rididuclously vast majority of muslims in Britain and France dont support terrorism. Especially those in France.

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What upsets me most is when European liberals compare deporting immigrants to the Holocaust.
Which ones?

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As stated by a Christian democrat in Germany, Europe's Jews differed from immigrants in Europe today because they spoke European lanuguages, ate European foods, etc. They were Eurpoeans of a different faith simply.

So do not try to compensate for killing innocent people in the holocaust by being nice to people who try to terrorize and proselytize you.
So? Muslims in Europe arent terrorizing anyone. There have been very few incidents.

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However, a large portion of Muslims sympathize with the small percentage of terrorists and help them.
Nope, thats bull!

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These very immigrants multiply like flies, and will soon be such a huge voting block that all politicians must appease them, even if it is wrong. This even happens today, ladies and gentlemen. The communists and other far left wingers will ally with the Muslim population to outvote all. We are in a terrible dilema.
And then the apocalypse will come!!!

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How can far left wingers still be so disillusioned. They really believe that all people are of a contructive nature,
Give me some names.

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Placing their fate in the U.N., a super corrupt entity
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Really? Cause my understanding was that obviously no other democratic governments or institutions had ever been corrupt in the last 100 years!

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The world is run by things like oil,
No its not. Its run by people.

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Well, soon it will all be over for the Europeans. Their identity will dissapear as they are taken over, from within.
Umm, what are you talking about? Europe has what, 400, 500 million people...? 10 million or so muslims are going to change something?

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A call to action! Because I am concerned does not mean that I am a rascist or an evil doer. By deporting somone, and giving them $20,000 so they can restablish themselves, one is not perpetrating a humanitarian crime.
I don't understand. You want to deport muslims? Why?

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The hell with Europe, I am an American. Praise George Bush, who my brainwashed student colleagues hate but they don't even know why.
I'm sure they very well know why they hate Bush.

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I truly come to admire America and neoconservatives like George Bush.
Okay, I'm sure he's done plenty to help the world, I just dont know what.

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G-d bless America for holding this world in balance.
Maybe a little bit of an exageration, but there is a tiny bit of truth here.
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Old 08-15-2005, 02:02 AM
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Europeans are the real extremists. They are either Nazis or Communists, and now they try to compensate by being 'really nice.'
Look at the European Parliament for figures, and see how many seats any conceivably fascist or communist parties hold.
http://www.elections2004.eu.int/ep-e...306/index.html
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France, as pronounced by an Egyptian religious leader, is a Muslim outpost and has Muslim Clerical representatives.

A sizable muslim minority, and?
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So, why not deport the immigrants?? "It's not humanitarian!" While Muslim Clerics in Britain justify the bombings, "humanitarian" organizations cry out to not deport them fearing that they will be tortured in their countries.
Humanitarian organizations are not governments (thank god), they can protest all they want. It is democracy, they can, fortunately governments are more sensible. Various European governments have cracked down on radicals.
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What upsets me most is when European liberals compare deporting immigrants to the Holocaust.
And they are not taken seriously. For a reason, it's absurd.
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By no means am I saying that all Muslims are bad. I have a very good friend from India, who happens to be a devout Muslim. However, a large portion of Muslims sympathize with the small percentage of terrorists and help them.
So all aren't, but most are? What should be done then? Systematic deportation or forced conversion?
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These very immigrants multiply like flies, and will soon be such a huge voting block that all politicians must appease them, even if it is wrong. This even happens today, ladies and gentlemen. The communists and other far left wingers will ally with the Muslim population to outvote all. We are in a terrible dilema.
We are?
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How can far left wingers still be so disillusioned. They really believe that all people are of a contructive nature, Placing their fate in the U.N., a super corrupt entity.
Okay, now I'm fascinated. Who are these elusive "far left wingers" who are apparently everywhere, who will join forces with the communists and muslims and bring about the apocalypse?
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The world is run by things like oil, that's why after the U.N. partition of Palestine-Israel in 1948 noone came to the aid of the 300,000 Jews against 45,000,000 Arabs. Afterwords, the Jews were condemned, even though they treated their Arab citizens very well. Arab Israelis have a much higher standard of living than other of their kin. The U.N did not intervene then, and what if Israel would lose the 1948 war? 300,000 Jews would be massacred. But when Israel gets to 50 kilometers from Cairo, the world threatens to intervene.
Global politics are never quite so simplistic. Those numbers are completely off however, neither side could muster an army any larger than a few ten thousand.
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I love and hate Europe, because of its achievments and also all the horrible things done.
I'm seeing little of that love.
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EVEN THE BRITISH, the most rightous people, are responsible for very much human suffering. True, they did help civilize India and China (they forbided practices such as burning widows, helped keep peace between the peace between rajas), however they colonized the people and raped them of their dignity. France did a similiar thing. And Germany, well of course, was responsible for tens of millions of deaths. I'd also like to mention that in their attempt to appease their colonized Arab population, Great Britain issued the white paper forbidding immigration of over 13,000 Jews per year to Palestine, in effect responsible for thousands, even millions of deaths in the Holocaust.
God forbid, EVEN THE BRITISH!!!
The British never controlled China. Colonialism isn't pretty, few people doubt that. I could point to the American West or the Phillippines as an example of American colonialism however.
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Well, soon it will all be over for the Europeans. Their identity will dissapear as they are taken over, from within. It's so sad.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
Look at the percentages of muslims in Europe.
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Maybe the world can be like the Lord of the Rings, an awosme novel, where the West rises up against surmountable odds and saves itself against Mordor and it's allies (think of middle earth and Earth in terms of geographical terms.) Mordor, the south east, and its allies the easterlings and southerlings may just be beaten back.
Tolkien is turning in his grave.
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A call to action! Because I am concerned does not mean that I am a rascist or an evil doer. By deporting somone, and giving them $20,000 so they can restablish themselves, one is not perpetrating a humanitarian crime.
Who is giving them 20,000$, for sure as hell I'm not paying for that. I think my fellow taxpayers will agree. So, arbritrary deportation by religion? Where? Send them all to Saudi Arabia?
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There are far left wingers in Europe, and then there are far right wingers in Europe Like Le Pen.
Yes, it is called a multiparty system. Works quite nicely.
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The hell with Europe, I am an American. Praise George Bush, who my brainwashed student colleagues hate but they don't even know why.
People are allowed to have an opinion towards the president, or did I miss the memo forbidding that?
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From the ditch of the Soviet Union, I truly come to admire America and neoconservatives like George Bush.
I hope America has not become synonymous with neoconservatism.
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G-d bless America for holding this world in balance.
It's a unipolar world. America is the dominating power, but the global economy is making the world even more interdependent. Pax Brittannica ended, pax Americana is sure to end too some day.
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Makala - I was going to post two 'new topics'; the one FOUR LEGS GOOD, the other TWO LEGS BAD....but I think you get the point without my wasting so much space...
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These very immigrants multiply like flies, and will soon be such a huge voting block that all politicians must appease them, even if it is wrong. This even happens today, ladies and gentlemen. The communists and other far left wingers will ally with the Muslim population to outvote all. We are in a terrible dilema.
What dilema is that? Whether or not to embrace democracy?

America weathered immigration just fine. Why will Europe be different? Their racial and religious amalgamation will make them more like us. And that is not a bad thing.

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So, why not deport the immigrants??
Because then it is no longer a true democracy.

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"It's not humanitarian!" While Muslim Clerics in Britain justify the bombings, "humanitarian" organizations cry out to not deport them fearing that they will be tortured in their countries.
Muslim clerics dont speak for all muslims, just as the Pope doesnt speak for all Catholics in the US.

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By no means am I saying that all Muslims are bad. I have a very good friend from India, who happens to be a devout Muslim. However, a large portion of Muslims sympathize with the small percentage of terrorists and help them.
Where did you get this data?

I might believe this of Mid-East Muslims. I have not yet seen any evidence of this in Europe however. Please post your source for this if you have it.

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These very immigrants multiply like flies, and will soon be such a huge voting block that all politicians must appease them, even if it is wrong.
What is keeping the rest of them from multiplying? Catholics dont multiply like flies? heh heh

Mormons in the US are even worse.

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The communists and other far left wingers will ally with the Muslim population to outvote all.
Yeah, because they are a majority. BFD. Liberals and Commies are not something new to Europe. Give me a break.

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The world is run by things like oil, that's why after the U.N. partition of Palestine-Israel in 1948 noone came to the aid of the 300,000 Jews against 45,000,000 Arabs.
Why did America get involved in Bosnia/Kosovo if everything is about Oil?

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I love and hate Europe, because of its achievments and also all the horrible things done.
I cant say that I love Europe quite as much.

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EVEN THE BRITISH, the most rightous people
Heh heh heh

Explain to me how the Brits are different from any other Euro-nation? Except for the fact that they keep electing US lapdogs to lead them.

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True, they did help civilize India and China
If by "civilize" you mean "enslave"...

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however they colonized the people and raped them of their dignity.
And America didnt? Even a nationalist like me has to admit that.

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Well, soon it will all be over for the Europeans.
It's been over for a while now. America has replaced them as the center of the world.

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Maybe the world can be like the Lord of the Rings, an awosme novel, where the West rises up against surmountable odds and saves itself against Mordor and it's allies
Already in the process of doing that. Thats why Iraq happened over the objections of most of Europe.

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There are far left wingers in Europe, and then there are far right wingers in Europe Like Le Pen.
Yeah, but Europe's idea of "right" is a little different than our's.

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The hell with Europe, I am an American. Praise George Bush, who my brainwashed student colleagues hate but they don't even know why.
No one has been accused of being a Bush-loving neo-con on this forum more than me (and rightly so). But I gotta, say, your ideas are a little loopy...and not shared by most neo-cons as far as I can tell. I can guarentee that Bush is not the person you should be supporting if you want these kinds of actions taken.
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The world is run by things like oil
The world isn't run by oil, but the U.S in particular is heavily influenced by it. That is why the 'war on terror' hasn't touched Saudi Arabia.
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yo whats this.. could it be? A soulmate for Rikitz!
I don't think so, Ted. Unlike Rikitz, this person likes America, knows the Holocaust occurred, can write in coherent sentences, and hasn't once used the word "Zionist".
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The decline of Industrial America is not the fault of Europe. Neither are Europe's difficulties the fault of the USA.

Are we on the brink of WW3? Once prosperous countries are now scrambling becuase of a shift in the new economic order, and there's huge talk of a build up of atomic weapons
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MAKALA and RIKITZ are one and the same..

The whole "split personality" thing!!
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