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Old 08-20-2005, 06:36 PM
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first it was about 9:11, then it was about WMD, then it was about fighting terrorism, then enduring freedom, then about bringing democracy to Iraqi people. as i remember the US hostage situation started because US gave shelter to one of their friendly dictators, Iranian SHAH......

this should answer all questions for Bush supporters as to why so many around the world oppose Iraq war and Bush administrations fight for "democracy". to those with some brains it should also raise questions as to "so what else is fake?"

US. Friendly dictators

Abacha, General Sani ----------------------------Nigeria
Amin, Idi ------------------------------------------Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo ---------------------------Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio --------------------------------Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal ----------------------------Brunei
Botha, P.W. ---------------------------------------South Africa
Branco, General Humberto ---------------------Brazil
Cedras, Raoul -------------------------------------Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio -----------------------------------Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek ---------------------------------Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo ------------------------Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo -------------------------------El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn ---------------------------------Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel ----------------------------Liberia
Duvalier, Francois --------------------------------Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude-----------------------------Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King ---------------------Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco -----------------------Spain
Hitler, Adolf ---------------------------------------Germany
Hassan II-------------------------------------------Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand -------------------------------Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez ---El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko -------------------------------Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel ------------------------Panama
Ozal, Turgut --------------------------------------Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza ---------------Iran
Papadopoulos, George --------------------------Greece
Park Chung Hee ---------------------------------South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto ---------------------Chile
Pol Pot---------------------------------------------Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni ------------------------Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios ---------------------Guatemala
Salassie, Halie ------------------------------------Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira --------------------Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. --------------------------Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. -------------------------Nicaragua
Smith, Ian ----------------------------------------Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo -----------------------------Paraguay
Suharto, General ---------------------------------Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas -----------------------Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael ------------------Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed ----------------------Pakistan

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Many of the world's most repressive dictators have been friends of America. Tyrants, torturers, killers, and sundry dictators and corrupt puppet-presidents have been aided, supported, and rewarded handsomely for their loyalty to US interests. Traditional dictators seize control through force, while constitutional dictators hold office through voting fraud or severely restricted elections, and are frequently puppets and apologists for the military juntas which control the ballot boxes. In any case, none have been democratically elected by the majority of their people in fair and open elections.

They are democratic America's undemocratic allies. They may rise to power through bloody ClA-backed coups and rule by terror and torture. Their troops may receive training or advice from the CIA and other US agencies. US military aid and weapons sales often strengthen their armies and guarantee their hold on power. Unwavering "anti-communism" and a willingness to provide unhampered access for American business interests to exploit their countries' natural resources and cheap labor are the excuses for their repression, and the primary reason the US government supports them. They may be linked internationalIy to extreme right-wing groups such as the World Anti-Communist League, and some have had strong Nazi affiliations and have offered sanctuary to WWll Nazi war criminals.

They usually grow rich, while their countries' economies deteriorate and the majority of their people live in poverty. US tax dollars and US-backed loans have made billionaires of some, while others are international drug dealers who also collect CIA paychecks. Rarely are they called to account for their crimes. And rarely still, is the US government held responsible for supporting and protecting some of the worst human rights violators in the world.
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:47 PM
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Well... alot of these were from many years ago, and many of them were our friends before Bush was around. Further, I doube Bush can even name many of those countries.
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yeah Rikitztiltskin, pls revise your list for only current active dictators... I want to send out xmas cards early this year
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Old 08-21-2005, 04:47 AM
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yea, sorry Pakistans Musharif was not on this list. "america changed so drastically in every 4 years and now with bush, it was bad before, but now it's all about truth, only one dictator friend bush supported!!"

ps: i wonder what changed US into such "good" nation all of a sudden? there was some kind of political koo or people just saw a good movie and started electing good leader and decided to try to do good instead of evil by being moved by a secret force of god all of a sudden
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you forgot Sadaam Hussien, who do you think gave him chemical weapons?
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Default Uh, the USSR, primarily.

Along with france, germany, the UK and others. we were way down the list.
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you forgot Sadaam Hussien, who do you think gave him chemical weapons?
ur right. during the reagan administration with bush 1 as vice president.
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War with one oppressive regeim at a time please. Do you reccommend we launch another 12 fronts to this war? How many cups of spilt milk would you have then?

It seems that your are unhappy with the international and political relations of the U.S. through out history.

BTW how many current dictators are on your list?
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Further, I doube Bush can even name many of those countries.
Ok. I admit that was funny.

I support Bush because he is less likely to be freindly to dictators than all the alternatives I have seen. Taking out two dictators > taking out none. Slow progress is better than no progress at all, which is what all of the alternatives offered on this issue.
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you forgot Sadaam Hussien, who do you think gave him chemical weapons?
ur right. during the reagan administration with bush 1 as vice president.
Yup. His dad and Rumsfeld both. I love it how people say "we've changed as a country" in supporting dictators when we have a guy who shook hands smiling at Sadaam as our Secretary of War. See avatar.
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