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Old 09-23-2005, 09:00 AM
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Default Silly Communists

I've noticed a surge of anti-capitalist "reformers" appearing lately. Arrogantly, they propose the same old revolution and reform "solutions" and see the same Illuminati/bourgesie boogeymen (not to be confused with rikitz's zionists).
How about this? If capitalism is to be replaced, let's actually try something better. Here's the plan. Everyone act extremely responsibly. Work hard, help others to work hard, give to charity, be an inspiration to everyone you meet. Eventually, everyone will be equally qualified as far as merit goes for all the BS high-class positions in the country. Only disabled people will be out of the workforce. All unemployed and underemployed people will be responsible and looking for work. Class truly will be the only thing that prolongs class problems. Then the illusion of legitimacy will fall and a revolution will be eminent. Either that or it actually will work and capitalism will truly be the ultimate system.
Regardless, you guys aren't doing your part, I bet. So quit inciting revolution and start inspiring it.
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Ya, these communist kids are mostly a joke. I don't even listen to them anymore, seeing that the 20th century proved communism an utter failure.

But if they want to waste their time promoting a failed political system, they can be my guest.
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It's a phase. Almost without exception they are in their teens or early 20s. Most of them will grow out of it.

I cant really throw stones...I was actually much worse when I was their age. The ones that are serious are deserving of responses...which is most of them IMO. If someone had explained exactly WHY communism was bad when I was their age, I would not have stayed a communist as long as I did. But the typical argument I got was "just because...", which is no argument at all.
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The college kids are the funniest ones...they seem honestly suprised that you dont simply accept everything they tell you as fact.
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I also went through a pro-communist phase during my highschool years, which happened to be right around the same time as the fall of the USSR. My simple notion of communism as a society where all share equally the resources of the world seemed like a utopian dream. I soon came to the conclusion that communism could only truly succeed on a small-scale. Large-scale communist societies like the USSR would eventually fail because humanity is far too corrupt to handle this kind of equality.
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The 20th century didn't really prove communism wrong. The USSR wasn't communist if communism is to be defined by Marx, it was a proletarian dictatorship. It also needs a world revolution, it's like a train running on two different sizes of track otherwise. To be honest, the 20th century has proved the current system wrong, nations can't/won't act together to combat problems like global warming and terrorism, in Africa people die every few seconds of starvation whilst rich countries have obesity problems, power still lies with wealth, how can you call that a success?
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because young people don't know a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing about anything. So it's excuseable. You just pat them on the head and move on. I went to a VERY liberal University. Nearly all the people I knew were hard core Dems, socialist leaning and/or communist leaning. Now, 13 years later, not a single one is (that I know of). Some are still Dems, of course, but right in the middle of the road. Funny how experience causes that. When you get out to the real world and you see how truly worthless many people are you abandon the notion of working for their benefit.
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When you get out to the real world and you see how truly worthless many people are you abandon the notion of working for their benefit.
I think direct, firsthand experience with the welfare system working in inner city areas is what did in my idealistic notions about the social services network.
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