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OF COURSE SUCCESS IN IRAQ! Are any of you Americans out there?
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Iraq provided a tiny fraction of our Oil...Even Mexico produces more oil than Iraq. Quote:
The hate and chaos is not eprmanent. There was hate and chaos after WWII also...where are Germany and Japan now? Things change. We will assimilate them eventually. Quote:
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it certainly could take place without Congress. Many conflicts have, in fact. True, it would have been harder to get ther sheeple to go along, but he does not need Congress to send troops into battle. So he will get nearly all the blame or praise.
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Give me an example of a war comeprable to Iraq that was waged against the wishes of Congress. Quote:
By calling them "sheeple" you are trying to absolve them of responsibility. No, they were not mind controlled. Quote:
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It's in black and white, clear as day. The President could wage WWII without approval (he'd have to call it a "conflict"). Check it out. It can be found on-line. He can send troops ANYWHERE for ANY PURPOSE. He may pay the price, but he sure as hell can do it. Want a quick history lesson?
In the Korean War, Truman established the new precedent by going to war without seeking Congressional approval. This precedent was followed by both Johnson and Nixon, who, claiming their war-making authority rested on their power as commanders in chief, refused to ask Congress for approval to wage war in Vietnam. So two major wars were fought without Congressional approval in the form of an official declaration! History is great! Even Congress talked about it in regard to Kosovo. Want to see the document? http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/co...9/cr031799.htm You were way off on this one. Bush needed Congress like a chicken needs a chainsaw.
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Found this via a casual google search:
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Either way, it is clear that legally, Congress could have stopped it if they had wanted to. The President does not have absolute military powers beyond emergency uses. Direct source for the Act - http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/caseco...rs/33/toc.html |
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But there is one small thing left out here: Presidents pretty much have taken the position that the ACT itself is unconstitutional and routinely ignore it. Here's a better link. It's a history of the act and an analysis of it done for Congress.
http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RL32267.html
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What does their belief have to do with what's legal? They (The Presidents) dont get to decide that...the Judicial branch does. As of right now, yes, Congress has the final say in war. The President, legally, has short term war powers. Thats it. Congress chose not to exercise this power. Actually, they went a step further, and officially delegated their authority on this matter to Bush...by their own choice. Your claim that Congress had no power to prevent the second Gulf War is wrong. They did have power, but chose not to use it. I read the FAS link, but feel like I wasted my time because it tells me nothing new. Just minutia on what I already read in the first link (FYI...this is why I b:tch at people for not summarizing links...it's your point you're trying to make, so dont make us do your footwork). Explain to me where in your FAS link it states (or implies) that Congress cannot stop a President from continuing a war after the 60-90 day period expires, or how a President can circumvent this limitation. Quote:
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I know if I make any personal threats my post will be removed (I hate you moderators) but honesty someone ????? COME ON? DO YOU MODERATORS HAVE A SOUL???? I JUST SWORE TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND MY COUNTRY NO MATTER WHAT THE COST!! No the goal isnt to GET OIL hence 2.50 a gal No the goal isnt to kill Arabs THE GOAL IS TO GIVE THE IRAQI PEOPLE THERE FREEDOM at the expense of American men and women (that I am sitting in a room full of) and you disrespect every last one of them with the HERESY you just regurgitated look at my sig GET IT? OK GET OUT
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