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Well, with China, for example, I would reward its government for every step towards democracy and the recognition of basic freedoms by giving it more power in the UN. In that way, China's wish to have power in the global community would be fulfilled only if it complied with basic standards of human rights. This is the behaviorist approach.
china is too powerfull...china wouldn't apply to the demand for human rights,and china is too powerfull in foreign economy to leave it out of anything
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China's economy is almost entirely based on foreign investment.
That said, I think we really need to put pressure on them or pull our investment if they don't comply. Right now China's edge is as an economic powerhouse, but what will happen when they simply become the industrial base of the world and have us all on a leash?
All the economic benefits of working with China are short-sighted. But I don't see it stopping anytime soon.
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It is important that we remain economically stronger than China. In my opinion, we should form an economic coalition with India, since India likes China's government even less than we do. UN pressure could, moreover, decrease foreign investment in China if the UN pushed for higher ethical standards. (I'm starting to scare myself with this hard line stuff.)
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that economic development may lead to more democratic principles in China. Much to the dismay of many Americans, most of the world would prefer a bipolar world, with the U.S. and China being superpowers. In 30 years time, there is no doubt in my mind that China will be mainly democratic. There will be no U.S./China war, I believe there will be two main competing economic blocs, each one lead by a superpower.
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Like ancient Egypt, China has never been much of an aggressor. If we come to see them as an important trading partner rather than an inevitable enemy, we might be less likely to pick a fight.
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There will never be an outright war, granted, but I know enough about China's government to know that it is ethically only a step away from governments like those of North Korea and Iran. We can't hand such a government money and expect that it will behave itself out of gratitude. We have to tie both diplomatic and financial rewards to moral improvements on the part of their government.
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that economic development may lead to more democratic principles in China. Much to the dismay of many Americans, most of the world would prefer a bipolar world, with the U.S. and China being superpowers. In 30 years time, there is no doubt in my mind that China will be mainly democratic. There will be no U.S./China war, I believe there will be two main competing economic blocs, each one lead by a superpower.
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