I also support a law that would make congressional districts approximate geometric shapes.
I also support a law that would make congressional districts approximate geometric shapes.
The more I think about it, the more interesting that idea is to me. An "incumbents may not run" rule will shake up congress and eliminate any thoughts of career safety that people might have. It would be most valuable in the senate, since it would level the playing field and bring equal representation to all of the states.
More importantly, incumbents could focus on governing instead of campaigning.
TANSTAAFL
You can vote people out anytime you get the majority of of votes for the other guy or gal, you don't need term limits.
In fact it takes time to learn the job and more importantly senior elected members of our government have power but its also a mentoring situation they guide the new members of office.
The way you avoid the issues your concerned about is get people to vote and do so in a considered manner knowing the issues, I would say if anything make civics education more important in schools and among the public at large.
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You can vote the incumbent out by voting for the other guy, but that fact doesn't help at all.
The incumbent was elected by a majority of the population because he claimed values and intentions that matched a majority of the population. The "other guy" will most often be of a different party and claim values and intentions very different from the ones the incumbent claims.
In the end the majority of the population has the choice between re-electing the incumbent who at least claims to have the desired values or to elect a person who claims different values from what is desired.
In the end, you don't really have the option to vote out the incumbent, unless you are willing to vote directly against your own values and desires.
TANSTAAFL
I don't like the idea of mentoring myself. I don't want my Senator/Congressman to be influenced by a senior member. It's "Washington" politics and partisanship that is often taught to the junior members of Congress. A "senior" Congressman with 20+ years of service wields too much power. I think something on the order of 2 five year term restrictions would be appropriate.
On the discussion of mentoring, I think it would be wise to have some sort of system whereby a brand new member of Congress must serve as the Chief of Staff of the outgoing Congressman for a year period. This would allow the incoming Congressman to learn the ins and outs of the office without becoming too connected to life long Congressmen serving as mentors.
I have no joy in strife,
Peace is my great desire;
Yet God forbid I lose my life
Through fear to face the fire. -Henry Van Dyke
I completely agree with term limits for senators and representatives. I think the Supreme Court should remain a life appointment though.
"The whole "us verses them/right verses left" mentality is childish; leave that crap in the sporting arena and understand that political discussions are no place for torrid, angry argument, rather rational dialogue whereby we may deepen and hone our own beliefs. Anyone declaring "liberalism" or "conservatism" as finite terms distinguishing absolute morality is grossly misguided and closed minded. They're just words; and we're just people. Political positions aren't sports teams." - TitoSparks
That's just trying to get rid of democracy. Voters have a constitutional right to have whoever they want for their representative. What's sad is, voters keep re-electing those that are the problem instead of electing those that would fix the problems. There's no cure for stupid.Term limits on Senators and members of the House?
Last edited by gophangover; Mar 26 2012 at 12:12 PM.
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