Thread: What form of government is the best?

Originally Posted by Tim Cornelis

Indeed, "That government is best which governs not at all." Unlike my so-called "anarcho-capitalist" (I prefer nonarchist, for these reasons) comrade Eaol, I do not think that a society based on "money decides" is fair at all, irrespective of the empty rhetoric declaring freedom and voluntary exchange.

We want freedom, not oppression. We want people to control their own lives.



Direct democracy over the state is an undesirable system, yes. But direct democracy over one's direct environment is not. At present, 90% of the decisions made in legislative institutions (parliament usually) is trying to solve the problems caused by capitalism. Solving unemployment, solving poverty, welfare, the crisis, distribution of wealth, ensuring access to healthcare, and so forth.

But direct democracy over decisions such as infrastructure is rather different. Moreover, when you have direct democracy over the state minorities are at risk (as you say). But that's because the state is a repressive organ. Giving the people direct control over such an organ is indeed a bad idea.

Are you the utopianist?

All forms are bad. We can see it. Monarchies and communists regimes were destroyed. There are capitalist economicses in in the deepest financial hole. I'm follower of сosmopolitanism. You can say i'm a dreamer,but how said John Lennon-"i'm not the only one"....

That government is best which governs least.

Originally Posted by inter

All forms are bad. We can see it. Monarchies and communists regimes were destroyed. There are capitalist economicses in in the deepest financial hole. I'm follower of сosmopolitanism. You can say i'm a dreamer,but how said John Lennon-"i'm not the only one"....

Representative democracy is the smallest of the evils in comparison with tyranny, an okhlocracy or oligarchy. Russian people suffered from dreamers, tyrants and utopianists under a communistic regime strongly therefore Russian people consider utopianists and dreamers as dangerous mentally ill people. I advise to dreamers to have more cynicism.

Valery, i'm from Russia too. There's no communistic tyranny. There's no monarchy. But there's oligarchy. Prokhorov,Berezovsky,Abramovic h and others are disease of Russia. There's no place to dreamers.....

"I advise to dreamers to have more cynicism."
Why? How it can to help?

I've only lived under a representative democracy, and it doesn't feel very representative. I would take a working class dictator over 500 store bought politicians. Sorry if this offends. Just where I am at. And no, I don't think Obama is this man, or any other who have spent at least 5 minutes on an Ivy League campus.

Originally Posted by Eaol

Honestly I think my signature spoils it, but my answer to the question "What form of government is the best?" is none.

People will always have government, but only a government that is explicitly voluntary is legitimate.

Originally Posted by inter

Valery, i'm from Russia too. There's no communistic tyranny. There's no monarchy. But there's oligarchy. Prokhorov,Berezovsky,Abramovic h and others are disease of Russia. There's no place to dreamers.....

"I advise to dreamers to have more cynicism."
Why? How it can to help?

I meet many people from Russia at English-speaking forums. If you from Russia, you have to know the quote from the novel Ilf and Petrov "12 chairs": "It need more cynicism, Kisa, (*)it is pleasant to people". It is my favourite principle. Simply I (*)don't love Marxist utopias and dreams very much, I like to see to things soberly. I am the supporter of scepticism.
(*) (*)The modern political regime in Russia is democratic in a form, but oligarchical according to the contents. (*)Putin rules (*)the fourth term today already and there is an one-party system led by "United (*)Rossia" party. Monopolies led by oligarchs exist in economy of Russia. Threat of the Chechen terrorism and threat of disintegration of Russia are the reasons of that Russian people are compelled to suffer the actual oligarchy in policy of Russia. Russian people are afraid that multi-party system will lead to disintegration of Russia. (*)It is possible to explain existence of monopolies and oligarchs in economy of Russia (*)that the market competition (*)managed to develop in Russia not everywhere still because of youth of the Russian capitalism.

I would go with philosopher-kings...

U.S. Constitutional Government, and Old School American Republic, what our Founding Father's had in mind, NOT the global fascist crap we have today.

Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves!!!

It's NOT about race or color, it's about the Constitution, STUPID!!!