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When and if a revolution is finally achieved I agree with Lenin in that a soviet system must be established in order to accustom people with communism since it will be such a change from capitalism. The soviets must then be eventually phased out to make way for pure communism. I also agree with what Trotsky said in his theory of Permanent Revolution about the necessity of revolutions in other countries for the survival of any of the revolutions.
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And what would happen with the people who didnt wish to participate? Quote:
Tell me I forgot, was it Jefferson that a revolution should happen every 10 years just to keep the goverment in line?
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[quote=KidCann117;495321]And what would happen with the people who didnt wish to participate?
They would have to be the minority and would either need to be ignored or shown to be wrong to the people. They could also just leave of their own accord if they dislike what is happening.
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[quote=slythytoav;496087]thats why it doesnt work in LARGE territories...people from different regions obviously have different problems and therefore require a platform that suits them best....so youll always have disagreement and with that comes resentment of the established goverment.
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Slythytoav, you are wrong. Marx never said that communism was an inevitable occurence. On the contrary, Marx was clear to point out that communism will only come about as and when a conscious working class majority actively intervene, through class struggle from below, in order to bring it about. Communism can never be handed down from above by others acting on behalf of the working class thus claiming to act in their interests. So Marx was very clear that communism is not a deterministic creed that is set in stone but is shaped by people.
Marx used the term 'dictatorship of the proletariat' to describe the aftermath of successful working class struggle and revolution. To modern ears this sounds like some kind of brutal totalitarian regime bearing down on people. This is understandable because the word 'dictatorship' has, over the course of history, become synonymous with tyranny and oppression. But what Marx was essentially saying was that under a successful communist revolution we all become masters and controllers of our own destiny's within the context of democratic state accountability. So the minority of the existing capitalist class who formerly had control under their system of capitalism must as a result of the new democratic will of the working class majority, relinquish their power in the interests of the majority as opposed to continuing and furthering the interests of the minority, as was the case prior to the revolution. Those who persist in going against the democratic will of the majority, will eventually just wither away into the mists of history. It makes more sense perhaps, if we look at it this way. Today, instead of living under the dictatorship of the proletariat, we in effect live under the 'dictatorship of the capitalist'. Although few people describe as this, this nevertheless is what it is to be living under the iron fist of ruling class oppression where a small minority own and control the means of production and distribution in society, whilst the majority remain slaves to it. |
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Communism is nothing but the political extension of the working class, and the Communist Party is nothing but the organization vanguard for the political activities of the working class. You oppose Communism = you oppose the common working people.
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Yes I oppose working class people ruling, something about no College education kind of makes me feel that way.
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I think I'm about as liberal as they come, but I do not consider myself communist, I prefer the term Democratic-Socialist. I think communism is an unrealistic ideal that looks good on paper but is impractical in real life. I've been called a commie and not taken offense though because I think it's better than being a conservative.
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