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Old 04-22-2004, 02:25 AM
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mmn, I think I understand better now, but, as I was trying to say before... and as rebellion also pointed out... the competion within us is what has helped us to survive. The developement of our race has been through learning and aquiring status.. I think it would be great to live as you say... but there wouldn't be any difference to life.. I dont know maybe I wouldn't be bothered because happiness might be found that way.. but the constant fight to become better would be lost because there wouldnt be anything in it, no reward of title?.. so.. to apply my anology... "the same milk.. every morning..."... and so people would seek.. the "different juice.." because they might be unhappy...

On the other hand, we might be fine.. it might be the best way to live in harmony.. no wars because there is no need for competing no need to become the highest/bestest economy.. so I dont dislike communism.. just am doubtful of its success..
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Old 04-22-2004, 03:02 AM
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I think in the start, the only way of getting a succesful communist nation is to have voluntary people (communists) in this state. The children will be thouht this way of living. Greed and competition is not necessary. But we are being thought this in schools, on televisions, and it exist as a generally known truth. Do you need competition?

I ask the guy who answered questions about communism: Why do you believe Castro and Guevara was influenced by Mao?
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Default Communism will never work

Why would a doctor in communist Guevarastan want to work for the same wage as a garbage collector, when that person could just walk across the border and make five times as much and not have to wait in line for toilet paper?
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Why do you say communism has never worked?
try reading Alexandr Solzhenitsyn's "the Gulag Archipelago" or to put it another way : A single party totalitarian gulag state in which the individual has no value, and the government no checks as to the power it wields is doomed to failure. Communism might have been a success if it had not been a single party "dictatorship of the proletariat"( read privileged ruling class) subject to the whims of a single man , that starved millions of peasants to death by confiscating all their food. that put millions more to death for nothing more than criticizing the leader to a friend. When we look at why our system has worked so well it's because it's adapted as excesses were uncovered ,has allowed criticism and debate and has actually evolved.
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Karl Marx's system of communism that leads to a utopian society could never exist on this planet b/c Marx fails to take into accoun one thing. His system is based in a world where there is no greed, where everyone pursues the common good. That can never happen. Human greed is here to stay. It's sad, but true. as long as there is means of pursuing ones own personal agenda, people will do it.

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not unless their agenda is greed...what socialist theory fails to account for is the very survival instinct and tendency for people to do what is in their own interest. Only in the world of stockbrokers, car salesman and socialists does that ALWAYS equate to greed.
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Why do I say communism has never worked?

Because it hasn't, that's why.

I'm probably breaking just about every single rule of logic there is by saying this, but tell me when it HAS worked.
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Communism is a very tough egg to crack. People in position of power can very easily be corrupted, and turn a positive vision into a totalitarian state. I personally think that pure communism is not a good idea.....partly because nothing in this world is absolute. Things change constantly in our world, and you cant just stick to the same thing forever. The same goes for Nazism. Trying to establish absolute order in a world that has no order. I personally think socialist democracy is a good idea. Basically, everything we have today, all the freedoms and everything, plus free healthcare and stuff. So this way, basicallly everyone is happy.

Castro was not the true communist idealist when his group overthrew the government. Che Guevara is the reason the people got behind the movement. He eventually came to disagree with Castro because Castro was in bed with the Russians, who were basically taking advantage of the poor Cubans, and turning the developing socialist country into a corrupt Soviet style totalitarian state. Che left Cuba to start revolutions in Bolivia to spread across Latin America, but he was betrayed by Castro, and the CIA along with Bolivian military hunted down Guevara and his guerilla troops and slaughtered all of them. Che Guevara was a hero who truly cared about people. He lived humbly until the day he died, and lived the revolution everyday of his life. Though the form of government he was going for may not have 100% correct, he was a true idealist and a great man.
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Why do you say communism has never worked?
1) Human beings form a natural hierarchy, so the promotion of absolute equality is a facade.
2) Communism is based upon materialism, much like capitalism. Both undermine national character and individual motivation.
3) Communism allows no diversity of thought.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:47 PM
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The reason why Communism will not work, is that it is human nature to strive for more. Communism makes words like selfish and ego bad words when in fact these things should be embraced. Another main flaw in Communism is that Marx proposed that the Capitalist society would eventually rid itself of competition, thus causing it's own demise. This theory would have probably worked assuming the capitalist society continued on with its practice of laissez-faire. However with the election of FDR the Republicans lost control of the congress and eventually through programs in the deal the system of laissez-faire was forever forgotten.
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