i think the reason communism never worked up to now is because it takes roughly (from what i guess) at least 400 years to become remotely close to the communist "ideal" state. It will never be achieved in our lifetimes. I think that in the future, canada, most of europe, and later, the united states. I think this because canada and europe are more peaceful, and have lots of political programs. of course this is a hypothesis and not fact.

If a train leaves Pittsburgh at 3:00 PM, what time will that hit of acid kick in?

The logic of that post gave me an ice cream headache.

Seriously, though. All the Iranians have to do is wait around until they are just the right amount of bitter, and then we'll welcome them in with the rest of the enemies. Heck, we'll give them all free lessons on how to fly planes. We'll even leave out the landing part to adjust for the learning curve.

Relax, Ernesto. We've got it under control. Here, have a mango.

Yes, patience certainly is a virtue. We will expect a full report in 2312 A.D.

In the meantime of course, we can sit here and starve to death because our bureaucracy fails to let the free market sort out supply and demand for food while our extremely oppressive governments wipe out hundreds of millions of people that they don't like while stealing billions of dollars from the labor of the people to satisfy their corrupt sense of being.

Sounds like a fun way to spend 400 years to me.

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In every group there will be those who want more because they are greedy.

It is also our inherent competitiveness, there will be those who want more because they perceive it as winning.

I think most often it is because of a sense of entitlement.
Highly skilled workers will always feel entitled to more than unskilled workers. Those with the skill and ability to save a life will always feel that is a more valuable contribution to any society than they will perceive the contribution of the garbage collector, the waitress, the tree-trimmer, to be.
Because they feel their contribution is of greater value, they will feel it is unfair that others receive the same remuneration as they. These are seeds of malcontentment that will always cause the skilled and the educated to gravitate towards a system of merit-based reward.
And because society needs and desires these skilled workers, they will always pay the price to have them stick around.

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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

But I think I'm a conservative.
A real one.
Preemptive war is the growing pains of Big Government.

Jesus had communist ideals.

George Bush and COngress used Marxist philosophy and Communist doctrine in order to bail out inefficient and corrupt private US corporations in the recent economic turmoil in the USA.

I think they used spin to HIDE the CORPORATE WELFARE HANDOUTS by calling them Stimulus Packages and Financial Assistance Programs

Well done Comrades in Washington and Wall Street - Karl Marx would be very proud of you all for adopting some of his principles and ideologies

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Socialist AMerica is Alive and well!



What did happen to the Carlyle group?

Government giving corporate welfare is not socialist, it is corporatist. Both are evils which must be eradicated, but they are different, and politics does not represent a dichotomy between the two.

And Jesus' ideals were ideals, he didn't want to introduce them to politics where people would be forced to accept them. This distinguishes him from a socialist (or Communist, in which the level of forced ideals is even higher).

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

I see - You know what Jesus wanted?

You seem to have an innate problem with associating the word SOCIALISM with anything COngress or the US president does.

You agree that the USA is NOT a democracy

You also agree that the USA is NOT a Free-MArket Economy.

You have no problems there.

But when the Socialist Corporate Welfare programs are rolled out by BOTH political parties in the USA, you prefer to call them by some other name?

WHite Fox - You have chosen your nicname very well my child

very well indeed!

Yes, even though your claims that he was a socialist fall through. Socialism is a political ideology, not a personal philosophy.

No I don't. Most of what Congress and the President do these days is socialist.

Not in the technical sense of the word.

But it should be.

Yes. Socialism is government handouts for the masses. Corporatism is government handouts for corporations. They are both forms of government handouts, but they are not identical.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

THE US "Corporate Welfare System" is alive and well I see.


And EVERYBODY knows where that road leads to - DONT WE FOLKS!

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