Why do you say communism has never worked?

Becuase the world needs status.
Unless im mistaken, communism, in its full extent, means no status...

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...because it hasn't?

I can think of no country that was/is actually communist. Russia was a single party totalitarian state, not even close to communism. And China, they are turning capitalist.

Sure as an ideal it sounds nice, but it is impossible in reality.

[quote]Becuase the world needs status.[quote/]

Do you need status?


Documentation please. Soviet managed to develop in 20 years what the US used 200 years on. They manage to bring the country from a famine country to a country with free healthcare, woman rights and a modern state without racial hatred.


[quote]Sure as an ideal it sounds nice, but it is impossible in reality.[quote/]

Please explain why.

Umm...You don't seriously believe that do you? Are you claiming that Stalin's Industrialization plan didn't force millions of Russians to starve to death? I'm not sure about the healthcare, but I am quite sure it was not available for anyone. Racial hatred? Heh...off to the Gulags with you.

As for the theory,
the idea that people would be willing to work different jobs of different complexity and requirements for exactly the same pay is ridiculous. Simply there is no way you could convince people (short of brainwashing a la Brave New World) to live contently in such a system, without luxury in equal misery. A utopian ideal, which never will see life.

Yes.

Yes? I am sure they put "sand (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s", "scums" and "dirty black pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*)" in the Gulags.

In the start, of course not. But a society will slowly progress moraly

[/quote]Simply there is no way you could convince people (short of brainwashing a la Brave New World) to live contently in such a system, without luxury in equal misery.[/quote]

Why do you have to be so negative? Is your way of living, manipulating news, mob violence, greed and propaganda any better?

Aside from the fact that you agree with the WTC bombings and I think it was a discusting act of cowardice from Bin Laden, I think you got alot of views that are like mine, good job!

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disagree with the fundamental philosophy of communism, as demonstrated by Karl Marx. I just dont like they way it came about and how it is been used in russia, cuba, china, etc. Communism, as stated by Marx, is not a REVOLUTION, but an EVOLUTION, it comes with time and progress. I think we are slowly moving towards a socialisitc society in america. Look at some of the issues on the table for this election, driving at the heart of socialist/communist ideas, health care, manufacturing workers control, i cant think of any others.
Modern day communism is not really true communism.

Cuba:
I won't to ask you. What is wrong with Cuba?
Cuba is a land were every person have the right to free healthcare, free education. Cuba has one of the best doctors in the world, and even though it is a poor country, their education can be compared to western nations.
Castro is a dedicated man who work for the people.

Russia:
Russia was not communist. Although people had free healthcare, education, elections, and it was transformed from one of the less developed nations in the world to the most developed, the government would always be taken care of. That is class segregation.

China:
China is a capitalist country, camouflaged behind a red flag. [/i]

Marx's economic theory was and is still sound (by and large).

Now pure economic theory is one thing, implementation is another.

Stalin was not a communist if viewed from any angle (economic or philosophical).

Mao was always confused.

Comrades it ain't going to happen. Now it's just yet another ideology discarded to the bin.

Human greed and the influence of Nationalism and Capitalism are too strong.

In fact as strange as it may seem coming from me, globalisation is the last best chance we have of bringing some sort of equality to the world, provided workers (and Unions) can see the benefits and work together globally to control the multi nationals.

Cheers,

Trot